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**dHXaE2h9** · 09-04-2012, 02:57 AM

Jazakallah Khair
Also I can see how you became aware of the weak points of Muslim Brotherhood's thoughts (and also Mawdudi's) as they contain some assumptions about politics and modern society that were influenced by elements of the ideologies of socialism, fascism and democracy that were all strong (and seemed to offer answers) in the early-mid 20th century CE. However, we may find that MB and JI are more flexible and able to learn than they sometimes appear InshaAllah.

Insha-Allah I hope you are right. Modernism in the west has now turned into Post-Modernism...where ideas that emerged during the so called European Enlightenment are now considered self-referential and circular not actually based on Reason as they claimed. This means that Modernism is now out of date already. Anyone who still works within the Modernist paradigm is doomed to failure...just look at the so called mature Democracies in the west...the masses are being told they have to pay off 'The Deficit", the they need to face deep "Cuts" and "Austerity", so the bankers can be paid off. The same bankers that went bust in 2008 and were bailed out by the tax payers...and some of them still take yearly bonuses of 6 or 8 million pounds. This is the potential for great corruption. People in Democratic policies are easily bought and the masses have very little choice is selecting a genuine leader. Many Arabs do not know what Islam is...they think it is something like Socialism.

09-04-2012, 02:57 AM	#23
dHXaE2h9 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 388 Senior Member	Jazakallah Khair Also I can see how you became aware of the weak points of Muslim Brotherhood's thoughts (and also Mawdudi's) as they contain some assumptions about politics and modern society that were influenced by elements of the ideologies of socialism, fascism and democracy that were all strong (and seemed to offer answers) in the early-mid 20th century CE. However, we may find that MB and JI are more flexible and able to learn than they sometimes appear InshaAllah. Insha-Allah I hope you are right. Modernism in the west has now turned into Post-Modernism...where ideas that emerged during the so called European Enlightenment are now considered self-referential and circular not actually based on Reason as they claimed. This means that Modernism is now out of date already. Anyone who still works within the Modernist paradigm is doomed to failure...just look at the so called mature Democracies in the west...the masses are being told they have to pay off 'The Deficit", the they need to face deep "Cuts" and "Austerity", so the bankers can be paid off. The same bankers that went bust in 2008 and were bailed out by the tax payers...and some of them still take yearly bonuses of 6 or 8 million pounds. This is the potential for great corruption. People in Democratic policies are easily bought and the masses have very little choice is selecting a genuine leader. Many Arabs do not know what Islam is...they think it is something like Socialism.
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