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**halfstreet** · 09-04-2012, 03:57 AM

May Allah give you tawfiq. My only advice is that if you have time, spend a few years seriously studying with `ulama before pursuing a PhD at a Western University. More than one person has gone in with the aim of defending Islam and come out as an apostate, والعياذ بالله.

May Allah SWT save us all from such ilm. Ameen.
Whats that dua for asking Allah SWT to give us only that ilm which will benefit us?

@mubarakr, thats the problem with you guys, you don't leave home and so stay un-knowledgeable.
Jama'ts from all over the world are coming to learn dawah in India, Ulamah jamat's that too brother. What should one say to that?
The result of the sacrifice of the Ulamah e Deoband has

Allahumma barik fihee has kept Deen alive in India.
Not a single madrasah, forget a madrasah, even in a maktab you won't find the Hafith saheb without Sunnah's [Sunnah beard, kurta etc] - and this is true about even the barelvis - but I don't know much about the La Madhabis.
But in Al-Azhar, there are scholars who come in shirts and trousers? Scholars?

Indians would look you up and down if you tell them you are a Hafith and you want to teach Quran for their kids, and then they wouldn't look at you again.

That's why you know brother, India is a special case, and with regards to people not speaking Arabic, India is home to 250-300 million Muslims, so one would hardly notice.

And with regards to the quality of Arabic taught and spoken in top Indian Madaaris like Deoband, Mazahir, Shahi, Nadwah and Dabhel - They are as good or even better than any madrasah in Arabistan, and Arabic in Nadwah is brilliant. I know most of this because my own brother has formally graduated from Deoband in Ifta and also from his circle of friends who are Scholars themselves - one among them topped his class of 700 in Arabic.

Leave home.

09-04-2012, 03:57 AM	#15
halfstreet Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 498 Senior Member	May Allah give you tawfiq. My only advice is that if you have time, spend a few years seriously studying with `ulama before pursuing a PhD at a Western University. More than one person has gone in with the aim of defending Islam and come out as an apostate, والعياذ بالله. May Allah SWT save us all from such ilm. Ameen. Whats that dua for asking Allah SWT to give us only that ilm which will benefit us? @mubarakr, thats the problem with you guys, you don't leave home and so stay un-knowledgeable. Jama'ts from all over the world are coming to learn dawah in India, Ulamah jamat's that too brother. What should one say to that? The result of the sacrifice of the Ulamah e Deoband has Allahumma barik fihee has kept Deen alive in India. Not a single madrasah, forget a madrasah, even in a maktab you won't find the Hafith saheb without Sunnah's [Sunnah beard, kurta etc] - and this is true about even the barelvis - but I don't know much about the La Madhabis. But in Al-Azhar, there are scholars who come in shirts and trousers? Scholars? Indians would look you up and down if you tell them you are a Hafith and you want to teach Quran for their kids, and then they wouldn't look at you again. That's why you know brother, India is a special case, and with regards to people not speaking Arabic, India is home to 250-300 million Muslims, so one would hardly notice. And with regards to the quality of Arabic taught and spoken in top Indian Madaaris like Deoband, Mazahir, Shahi, Nadwah and Dabhel - They are as good or even better than any madrasah in Arabistan, and Arabic in Nadwah is brilliant. I know most of this because my own brother has formally graduated from Deoband in Ifta and also from his circle of friends who are Scholars themselves - one among them topped his class of 700 in Arabic. Leave home.
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