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**BrianGoldsmith** · 06-27-2010, 03:14 AM

If Somaliland has the support of the united states and other major powers in the world as minister is claiming, why are they not recognizing it as an independent and sovereign country? who is holding them back?

2) why are 75 000 ethnic Somalis probably from other Clan are prohibited not to participate in the election.

3) Is Dr Samatar from isaaq or he is just one of those unfortunate darood whose land is part of the Somaliland jurisdiction

Btw..The somaliland minister resembles more of an amhara/Oromo rather than a somali.

1) Somaliland's international recognition is not as important as much as the people of Somaliland are self governing, and their economy and security functioning. The referendum held in 2001 verified that the folks of the north want independence.

The video expands very well as to why Somaliland is successful while Somalia is not, so I wont dwell on it.

2) Why are Ethiopian refugees not allowed to vote in Eritrean elections? Oh wait, there are no elections in eritrea, it's a dictatorship. But you still get where I'm going with that analogy, right? Just because there are displaced Somalis from Somalia and Ethiopia does not make them eligible to vote in Somaliland's elections, only the citizens of Somaliland are eligible. That the biggest issue/crisis Somaliland is being challenged on is the eligibility of these displaced Somalis in the elctions, while in Mogadishu people are banned from watching soccer games show how far the two places have become, almost different realities/atlernate universes.

3) Dr Samatar is Isaaq, his anti-Somaliland stance is because he's an advocate of the old school Somaliweyn (Pan-Somalism). It's because of people like Dr Samatar that prove to me that tribalism/clannish politics is the least of Isaaq's problems. There are pro-Somaliland Isaaqs, anti-Somaliland Isaaqs, Islamist Isaaqs, and even Zionist Isaaqs, we arent a monolithic borg who all think the same.

---------- Post added 2010-06-26 at 15:20 ----------

Interesting interview Ferenj
About the proposal from that qatari based analyst Afyari Elmi for Hargeisa to be the capital instead of Mogadishu, what do you say about that Sanjub? Do you think there are a lot of other somalis who would be willing to entertain this idea?

Hargeisa is the 2nd largest city, and the largest by economic activity, but unlike Mogadishu it lacks the 'cosmopolitan' quality a capital city in Africa needs to be truly representative and have power centralized. People in Somalia will start claiming the whole country is run from Hargeisa, and that will cause other clans to ally and band together against this perceived domination from Hargeisa. This is the whole reason why the people of Somaliland chose to leave the union they joined in 1960.

06-27-2010, 03:14 AM	#12
BrianGoldsmith Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	If Somaliland has the support of the united states and other major powers in the world as minister is claiming, why are they not recognizing it as an independent and sovereign country? who is holding them back? 2) why are 75 000 ethnic Somalis probably from other Clan are prohibited not to participate in the election. 3) Is Dr Samatar from isaaq or he is just one of those unfortunate darood whose land is part of the Somaliland jurisdiction Btw..The somaliland minister resembles more of an amhara/Oromo rather than a somali. 1) Somaliland's international recognition is not as important as much as the people of Somaliland are self governing, and their economy and security functioning. The referendum held in 2001 verified that the folks of the north want independence. The video expands very well as to why Somaliland is successful while Somalia is not, so I wont dwell on it. 2) Why are Ethiopian refugees not allowed to vote in Eritrean elections? Oh wait, there are no elections in eritrea, it's a dictatorship. But you still get where I'm going with that analogy, right? Just because there are displaced Somalis from Somalia and Ethiopia does not make them eligible to vote in Somaliland's elections, only the citizens of Somaliland are eligible. That the biggest issue/crisis Somaliland is being challenged on is the eligibility of these displaced Somalis in the elctions, while in Mogadishu people are banned from watching soccer games show how far the two places have become, almost different realities/atlernate universes. 3) Dr Samatar is Isaaq, his anti-Somaliland stance is because he's an advocate of the old school Somaliweyn (Pan-Somalism). It's because of people like Dr Samatar that prove to me that tribalism/clannish politics is the least of Isaaq's problems. There are pro-Somaliland Isaaqs, anti-Somaliland Isaaqs, Islamist Isaaqs, and even Zionist Isaaqs, we arent a monolithic borg who all think the same. ---------- Post added 2010-06-26 at 15:20 ---------- Interesting interview Ferenj About the proposal from that qatari based analyst Afyari Elmi for Hargeisa to be the capital instead of Mogadishu, what do you say about that Sanjub? Do you think there are a lot of other somalis who would be willing to entertain this idea? Hargeisa is the 2nd largest city, and the largest by economic activity, but unlike Mogadishu it lacks the 'cosmopolitan' quality a capital city in Africa needs to be truly representative and have power centralized. People in Somalia will start claiming the whole country is run from Hargeisa, and that will cause other clans to ally and band together against this perceived domination from Hargeisa. This is the whole reason why the people of Somaliland chose to leave the union they joined in 1960.
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