yep, like your stuff on goss, you were one of few who said it how it was - whether fear or favour. that's a rare commodity. well done. yeah - remember fat boy put a few noses out of joint, and that's when he was fit. i remember playing against subi (of all teams) and their ruckman accidently stood on my ankle waitning for a ball up and the ligaments ripped from the bone, well our ruckman neville rip didn't see the lead up, just saw me on the ground holding my head thinking their ruckman smashed me. well rippy was about 6'6 at 18 and just smashed this bloke and got about 8 weeks for his trouble. that was around the fat budda time so i never spoke to rippy about the incident, though he prob wouldn't remember it now anyway. but had a massive dislike for gandini from juniors to colts after playing against him with some cheap shots along the way. got to colts together and decided his arrogance needed attending to ;D