Arif Billah Hazrat Aqdas Roomi e Saani Maulana Shah Hakeem Mohammad AKHTAR sahab Damatbarakatuhum (85 yrs ) AND Hazrat Nawab Qaiser sahab Damatbarakatuhum (Hazrat Thanvi Murid of 90yrs) Meeting in Khanqah Imdadia Ashrafia during Morning Majlis once i was in Morning Majlis of Hazrat wala db , than Hazrat Nawaab Qaiser sahab db ( Murid of Hakeem ul Ummat Mujaddidul Millat Hazrat Maulana Shah Ashraf Ali Thanvi 90 yrs of age approx) came in Hazratwala db majlis ,Hazratwala db stand up with the Khuddam's help and make MUANQA (meeting one to one from right side shoulder) than Hazratwala db says to Hazrat Nawab shb db to say something which he Listen in the company of Hazrat Thanvi , Hazratwala db also says that Hazrat Nawab sahb is the one who have seen the eyes of Hazrat Mujaddid Hazrat Maulana Shah Ashraf Ali Thanvi , Hazrat Nawab Qaiser sahb db says that He also the ""Hum niwala ""(eat in the same plate ) of Hazrt Thanvi Nawab Qaisar Saheb mentioned that he was in that gathering wherein Azizul Hasan Majzoob Saheb () asked Hakeemul Ummat as to how one can attain the love of Allah Ta’ala. Hazrat Hakeemul Ummat replied: “Those who have attained this love in their hearts, humble yourself before them and attend their gatherings for the sake of your spiritual reformation. Act upon their advices and abstain from what they forbid.” (in urdu : Jihnoon nay Allah Tala ki mohabbat apnay dil main hasil kar li hay unko jootion main par jao yaani unkay samnay apnay aap ko mita do , apni raey ko mita do) Moulana Rumi ( ) has said: In Farsi :Qal ra Bugzaar Mard e haal shou Paish e Mard e kamil e pamaal shou Means : Leave your flowery talk and become a man of action, Lower and humble yourself before a friend of Allah who has attained perfection. In other words, leave all this “he said...it was said...” and worry about your own condition. But how will one become a man of action? By humbling oneself before a friend of Allah who has attained perfection.