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**enteltcheft** · 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM

Well obviously! I don't expect "Lakeer k faqeers" to like my comments ...

People here on this forum are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo narrow-minded that it is not even funny anymore ...

So basically , even listening to Music is haram , watching T.V is haram , playing Video Games is haram , dancing is haram , etc ..everything is haram haram haram haram haram....Is there ANYTHING your pathetic interpretation of Islam allows? What should people do to enjoy their lives? Oh no , enjoying life is also haram ....

What an ignorant post.

A lot of people don't pray 5 times a day. Is what they're doing not haraam? A lot of people drink alcohol and that is enjoyment for them. Is what they're doing not haraam? A lot of people hang out with girls and have relations with different girls every night. Is what they're doing not haraam?

People like you are the reason why we have problems in the ummah. You like to choose what you want to follow rather than what is the truth. It is called giving into one's desires and that itself is clearly haraam, as mentioned in the Qur'an. If there were more people like you, it would be impossible to distinguish a Muslim from a kaafir. You place more importance on the world rather than the hereafter.

And of course, you haven't read any of the fatawa posted earlier in this thread because you don't care what the Qur'an or the ahadeeth say. You're content that you've found some guy with a dissenting opinion to make your case, just how people are able to find others who can make halaal other things that are haraam, such as riba, zina, alcohol, haraam meat, etc.

To you and your kind, even if there was an ayah in the Qur'an that forbade music (and there is), you would say that it was for that time (just how you reject the ayah of the Qur'an about hijab). In that case, someone can say the entire Qur'an was "for that time" and you won't be able to argue with that person since that is your entire premise.

Seems like the modernist train of thought works this way:
"Hmm... let's copy the non-Muslims completely... oh, this is not compatible with Islam so let's just say that Islam only made it prohibited for a certain time period..."

Guess what happens when you go far enough with this train of thought? It is only the society and culture you grow up in that ends up restricting you. There's a reason why alcohol is so commonplace in a so-called Muslim country like Turkey: 99% of the population claims to be Muslim but a lot of them don't see drinking alcohol as sinful, despite being clearly forbidden in the Qur'an. Why? Because that is the cultural norm in Turkey nowadays. You're of a Pakistani background and I can guarantee you that if drinking alcohol was a norm in Pakistan, you'd be saying it is perfectly acceptable and not haraam. You say music is halaal because it is part of Pakistani culture. You say women who don't wear hijab are not sinning because not wearing hijab is also seen in Pakistani culture. If zina and gambling was part of Pakistani culture, you'd say that was halaal, too!

09-04-2012, 04:22 AM	#14
enteltcheft Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 422 Senior Member	Well obviously! I don't expect "Lakeer k faqeers" to like my comments ... People here on this forum are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo narrow-minded that it is not even funny anymore ... So basically , even listening to Music is haram , watching T.V is haram , playing Video Games is haram , dancing is haram , etc ..everything is haram haram haram haram haram....Is there ANYTHING your pathetic interpretation of Islam allows? What should people do to enjoy their lives? Oh no , enjoying life is also haram .... What an ignorant post. A lot of people don't pray 5 times a day. Is what they're doing not haraam? A lot of people drink alcohol and that is enjoyment for them. Is what they're doing not haraam? A lot of people hang out with girls and have relations with different girls every night. Is what they're doing not haraam? People like you are the reason why we have problems in the ummah. You like to choose what you want to follow rather than what is the truth. It is called giving into one's desires and that itself is clearly haraam, as mentioned in the Qur'an. If there were more people like you, it would be impossible to distinguish a Muslim from a kaafir. You place more importance on the world rather than the hereafter. And of course, you haven't read any of the fatawa posted earlier in this thread because you don't care what the Qur'an or the ahadeeth say. You're content that you've found some guy with a dissenting opinion to make your case, just how people are able to find others who can make halaal other things that are haraam, such as riba, zina, alcohol, haraam meat, etc. To you and your kind, even if there was an ayah in the Qur'an that forbade music (and there is), you would say that it was for that time (just how you reject the ayah of the Qur'an about hijab). In that case, someone can say the entire Qur'an was "for that time" and you won't be able to argue with that person since that is your entire premise. Seems like the modernist train of thought works this way: "Hmm... let's copy the non-Muslims completely... oh, this is not compatible with Islam so let's just say that Islam only made it prohibited for a certain time period..." Guess what happens when you go far enough with this train of thought? It is only the society and culture you grow up in that ends up restricting you. There's a reason why alcohol is so commonplace in a so-called Muslim country like Turkey: 99% of the population claims to be Muslim but a lot of them don't see drinking alcohol as sinful, despite being clearly forbidden in the Qur'an. Why? Because that is the cultural norm in Turkey nowadays. You're of a Pakistani background and I can guarantee you that if drinking alcohol was a norm in Pakistan, you'd be saying it is perfectly acceptable and not haraam. You say music is halaal because it is part of Pakistani culture. You say women who don't wear hijab are not sinning because not wearing hijab is also seen in Pakistani culture. If zina and gambling was part of Pakistani culture, you'd say that was halaal, too!
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