DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Muslim Americans Must Obey U.S. Laws; Nidal Hasan Disobeyed Islamic Doctrine

**Crazykz** · 09-04-2012, 03:22 AM

Ok let us say that you are right. You are saying that as a resident of Pakistan you can kill or attack any or all Pakistanis because the state of Pakistan is aiding Americans in killing Muslims?

the difference between pakistan and US is of majority here being muslims and majority there being non-Muslims. so, the answer is no.

Or only the Pakistani military can be rightly attacked?

they are a legitimate target.

What if someone attacks the Pakistani military, kills a few hundred soldiers, but then the Pakistani millitary reacts by ruthlessly killing many Muslims in return and further empowering itself as the biggest and baddest bully on the block....what have you achieved?

the alternative to this is do not attack and the military will still ruthlessly kill many Muslims anyway. the military started the war remember. they brought it to the tribesmen's homes. they sided with the kuffar. they breached truces with mujahideen. they are a target not just for military gains but for revenge and also as a duty because apostates have to be fought. not everything in J!had is material success. yet such attacks, as the one made last night, destroy the enemy's moral and strike fear into their hearts, simply because it is spectacular and unexpected. then there is reward for fighting fi sabeel illah and the opportunity for martyrdom. yet there is material success as well such as destruction of weapons, aircrafts, vehicles etc.

With regards to killing the military in America...what if the soldiers are forced to go...are they guilty and responsible for it? It is the democratic form of government which allows these things to occur and we have to know where ultimate responsibility lies. Is it with 'the people', or 'the President', or the hidden banker and corporate elites.

the lal masjid fatwa (signed by 500 muftis of pakistan) and mufti shamzai ( as far as i remb) among others hold the view that the soldier should resign from such an army even if he is facing court martial or death. otherwise blame lies on him.

09-04-2012, 03:22 AM	#21
Crazykz Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 434 Senior Member	Ok let us say that you are right. You are saying that as a resident of Pakistan you can kill or attack any or all Pakistanis because the state of Pakistan is aiding Americans in killing Muslims? the difference between pakistan and US is of majority here being muslims and majority there being non-Muslims. so, the answer is no. Or only the Pakistani military can be rightly attacked? they are a legitimate target. What if someone attacks the Pakistani military, kills a few hundred soldiers, but then the Pakistani millitary reacts by ruthlessly killing many Muslims in return and further empowering itself as the biggest and baddest bully on the block....what have you achieved? the alternative to this is do not attack and the military will still ruthlessly kill many Muslims anyway. the military started the war remember. they brought it to the tribesmen's homes. they sided with the kuffar. they breached truces with mujahideen. they are a target not just for military gains but for revenge and also as a duty because apostates have to be fought. not everything in J!had is material success. yet such attacks, as the one made last night, destroy the enemy's moral and strike fear into their hearts, simply because it is spectacular and unexpected. then there is reward for fighting fi sabeel illah and the opportunity for martyrdom. yet there is material success as well such as destruction of weapons, aircrafts, vehicles etc. With regards to killing the military in America...what if the soldiers are forced to go...are they guilty and responsible for it? It is the democratic form of government which allows these things to occur and we have to know where ultimate responsibility lies. Is it with 'the people', or 'the President', or the hidden banker and corporate elites. the lal masjid fatwa (signed by 500 muftis of pakistan) and mufti shamzai ( as far as i remb) among others hold the view that the soldier should resign from such an army even if he is facing court martial or death. otherwise blame lies on him.
	Quote