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**KernJetenue** · 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM

Brother yes I mean fard e ayn not kifaya.

The sunnah is khilafah first then jihad fee sabilil lah. Like I said Jihad to defend lands lives and property are allowed but only in the locality involved. Without a khalifah and without a base how can you expect others to join the jihad? They have no idea where they are going and who they are joining. A khalifah is a source of dawa and unity to all Muslims and non Muslims. He is out in the open not hiding in a cave, he declares his messages to everyone via his own media....he invites Muslims to learn from him, to see how the deen operates.

The first thing the rasul did when he entered Madina munawwara was he established a masjid and a market. This the sunnah. Why is it called munawwara (the enlightened)? Because the deen was established there..and only when the same model is followed will we have victory.

Who have I read? I have read the book knows as the sign of the sword by shaykh abdal qadir as sufi. He says when Muslims invade the lands of the kuffar fee sabililah they can kill preists and monks if they are fighters..otherwise not.

When Muslim armies invaded foreign states did they eat food from the trees and land or did they pay for it?

I heard a story where some Muslims took jizya from non Muslims...then they found that they could not defend the non Muslims so they gave them back the jizya, and left. This is Islam...it has its own laws.

Scheuer writes:

you mean fard e ayn, yes? fard e kifaya is communal not individual.

who have you read regarding J!had and khilafa? please tell me.

who are the ulema with AQ kindly tell me.

let me be very precise: there is no khilafa without J!had. and there are no such restrictions as you have given.

also you are displaying ignorance about the gains of the 'endless' war. do you take the news from secular media or mujahideen themselves? i believe i have asked you atleast three times to go and read michael sheuer's wiki page to know his opinion on this. please do me a favour and do that. it will tell you all about the war.

p.s here you are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scheuer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Hubris

some other books:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_S...nly_Superpower
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_t...American_Order

then of course there are actual AQ resources. one of them you just saw.

09-04-2012, 04:22 AM	#30
KernJetenue Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Brother yes I mean fard e ayn not kifaya. The sunnah is khilafah first then jihad fee sabilil lah. Like I said Jihad to defend lands lives and property are allowed but only in the locality involved. Without a khalifah and without a base how can you expect others to join the jihad? They have no idea where they are going and who they are joining. A khalifah is a source of dawa and unity to all Muslims and non Muslims. He is out in the open not hiding in a cave, he declares his messages to everyone via his own media....he invites Muslims to learn from him, to see how the deen operates. The first thing the rasul did when he entered Madina munawwara was he established a masjid and a market. This the sunnah. Why is it called munawwara (the enlightened)? Because the deen was established there..and only when the same model is followed will we have victory. Who have I read? I have read the book knows as the sign of the sword by shaykh abdal qadir as sufi. He says when Muslims invade the lands of the kuffar fee sabililah they can kill preists and monks if they are fighters..otherwise not. When Muslim armies invaded foreign states did they eat food from the trees and land or did they pay for it? I heard a story where some Muslims took jizya from non Muslims...then they found that they could not defend the non Muslims so they gave them back the jizya, and left. This is Islam...it has its own laws. Scheuer writes: you mean fard e ayn, yes? fard e kifaya is communal not individual. who have you read regarding J!had and khilafa? please tell me. who are the ulema with AQ kindly tell me. let me be very precise: there is no khilafa without J!had. and there are no such restrictions as you have given. also you are displaying ignorance about the gains of the 'endless' war. do you take the news from secular media or mujahideen themselves? i believe i have asked you atleast three times to go and read michael sheuer's wiki page to know his opinion on this. please do me a favour and do that. it will tell you all about the war. p.s here you are: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Scheuer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Hubris some other books: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_S...nly_Superpower http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_t...American_Order then of course there are actual AQ resources. one of them you just saw.
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