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**Breilopmil** · 09-04-2012, 04:22 AM

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Any non-muraabitoon literature?

no

If it's really unwritten, and there was no illegal contact between the companies ... I don't understand how the state is supposed to police it, or if they even should police it. They cannot, however the state helps create and sustain supermarkets.

You're saying that an oligopoly cannot exist within a free market? It's a free market, the necessary forces exist to produce an oligopoly. The burden of proof is on you to prove that a free market would never result in an oligopoly. We do not live in a free market, the state intervenes in the market with countless regulations helping big supermarkets to build their stores etc.

http://roma38.wordpress.com/2012/08/...f-the-economy/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_C...vs._capitalism
see the section free markets vs capitalism

Who says they don't pay for road maintenance? Generally, road infrastructure is supported thru fuel taxation. Everyone pays fuel taxation. And since you are paying taxes of the fuel you use, naturally those who use more fuel (and hence more of the road infrastructure) will pay more in taxes to fund the said infrastructure. They drive huge trucks and they pay something like £200...when it is obvious that they use the roads much more and also the road gets worn out more.

Large market chain grocery stores get more in subsidies as compared to independent grocery stores? Proof. Is it not possible that the large chain grocery store acquired a bunch of capital, took a risk, and setup a scaled up business allowing them to consolidate and reduce costs - undercutting the independent grocery store? Perhaps the independent grocery store wasn't as lucky, or not as entrepreneurial, or was happy with their little store and not interested in expanding, or didn't have access to the capital, etc .. (i.e. stuff that happens in a free market). It is not a free market

Free markets don't create utopia, but at least it is fair. Utopia is not the goal of Islam either. As far as I understand, Islam doesn't design economic principles to reduce disparity between rich and poor below a certain ratio, nor does it morph the economic environment so that no one company can have more than X% market share ... Islam implements justice, and sort of lets things go as they go ... Islam prevents the development of monopolies and oligopolies because these are bad news.

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Breilopmil Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 409 Senior Member	[QUOTE] Any non-muraabitoon literature? no If it's really unwritten, and there was no illegal contact between the companies ... I don't understand how the state is supposed to police it, or if they even should police it. They cannot, however the state helps create and sustain supermarkets. You're saying that an oligopoly cannot exist within a free market? It's a free market, the necessary forces exist to produce an oligopoly. The burden of proof is on you to prove that a free market would never result in an oligopoly. We do not live in a free market, the state intervenes in the market with countless regulations helping big supermarkets to build their stores etc. http://roma38.wordpress.com/2012/08/...f-the-economy/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_C...vs._capitalism see the section free markets vs capitalism Who says they don't pay for road maintenance? Generally, road infrastructure is supported thru fuel taxation. Everyone pays fuel taxation. And since you are paying taxes of the fuel you use, naturally those who use more fuel (and hence more of the road infrastructure) will pay more in taxes to fund the said infrastructure. They drive huge trucks and they pay something like £200...when it is obvious that they use the roads much more and also the road gets worn out more. Large market chain grocery stores get more in subsidies as compared to independent grocery stores? Proof. Is it not possible that the large chain grocery store acquired a bunch of capital, took a risk, and setup a scaled up business allowing them to consolidate and reduce costs - undercutting the independent grocery store? Perhaps the independent grocery store wasn't as lucky, or not as entrepreneurial, or was happy with their little store and not interested in expanding, or didn't have access to the capital, etc .. (i.e. stuff that happens in a free market). It is not a free market Free markets don't create utopia, but at least it is fair. Utopia is not the goal of Islam either. As far as I understand, Islam doesn't design economic principles to reduce disparity between rich and poor below a certain ratio, nor does it morph the economic environment so that no one company can have more than X% market share ... Islam implements justice, and sort of lets things go as they go ... Islam prevents the development of monopolies and oligopolies because these are bad news.
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