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**BamSaitinypap** · 01-04-2010, 11:19 PM

Sorry for off-topic.

Anyhow, I have travelled the globe far and wide.

But you managed to skip the Finno-Ugric (or at least Finnic) areas in Russia. By the money, spent on SEA holidays, instead you could cross Russia 2 or 3 times, live there at least month etc. If you are interested in your ethnic routes, why don't you do that??? You are just like a typical Finnish - you will rather travel to some other end of planet and meet some Bushmen or Khmong, than travel to Finnic areas in Russia. It's not like I am againt the far-distance travel or knowing more exotic places (I would definately do that myself, if I'd have more money), but sometimes it looks like some kind of avoiding or skipping.

Even more interesting is that Finnish people will much more likely go to help to some Bantu children in Africa, or some slum community in Southern America, than they will help for Udmurt music to get modernised (did you f.e. know, that Udmurts don't have hard rock music at all?) etc.

You certainly know quite little about the Finno-Ugric minorities in Russia, and you can't do even such minimum as visit their places, for some reason. Yet it doesn't stop you from false claims as "Finns have nothing to do with them" etc. Then better to have mouth shut up, isn't it?

Sorry for attacking, though, I understand at least part of reasons for these things. The average Finnish, like you are, is just not informed about the Finno-Ugric minorities and their situation in Russia. And while it happens so, these minorities have literally to struggle for surviving, their languages and cultures are dissapearing, they don't get really modernised (basically because they have no money etc. for that), and the country itself quite silently but clearly is against them. And really, Finns are not worried by all of that, they instead just go to help the Bantus or slums in South America (don't get me wrongly, it's not like I don't think that Bantu or slum people don't need the help; it's just that they can get this help from other rich country or people as well; but there is NOBODY right now who would really help the Finno-Ugric minorities in Russia).

Sometimes I hate this world.

01-04-2010, 11:19 PM	#7
BamSaitinypap Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 502 Senior Member	Sorry for off-topic. Anyhow, I have travelled the globe far and wide. But you managed to skip the Finno-Ugric (or at least Finnic) areas in Russia. By the money, spent on SEA holidays, instead you could cross Russia 2 or 3 times, live there at least month etc. If you are interested in your ethnic routes, why don't you do that??? You are just like a typical Finnish - you will rather travel to some other end of planet and meet some Bushmen or Khmong, than travel to Finnic areas in Russia. It's not like I am againt the far-distance travel or knowing more exotic places (I would definately do that myself, if I'd have more money), but sometimes it looks like some kind of avoiding or skipping. Even more interesting is that Finnish people will much more likely go to help to some Bantu children in Africa, or some slum community in Southern America, than they will help for Udmurt music to get modernised (did you f.e. know, that Udmurts don't have hard rock music at all?) etc. You certainly know quite little about the Finno-Ugric minorities in Russia, and you can't do even such minimum as visit their places, for some reason. Yet it doesn't stop you from false claims as "Finns have nothing to do with them" etc. Then better to have mouth shut up, isn't it? Sorry for attacking, though, I understand at least part of reasons for these things. The average Finnish, like you are, is just not informed about the Finno-Ugric minorities and their situation in Russia. And while it happens so, these minorities have literally to struggle for surviving, their languages and cultures are dissapearing, they don't get really modernised (basically because they have no money etc. for that), and the country itself quite silently but clearly is against them. And really, Finns are not worried by all of that, they instead just go to help the Bantus or slums in South America (don't get me wrongly, it's not like I don't think that Bantu or slum people don't need the help; it's just that they can get this help from other rich country or people as well; but there is NOBODY right now who would really help the Finno-Ugric minorities in Russia). Sometimes I hate this world.
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