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**Zdfjpbth** · 06-08-2012, 12:54 AM

I can guarantee you that what is percieved as "white" in e.g. Greece is quite different from what is percieved as white in e.g. Sweden.

I said "average Joe" for a reason.

You'll never escape the problem of having to draw a line somewhere. And that line is bound to be arbitrary. You even said it yourself now - "whoever shows up as an outlier". Well, you gotta subjectively pick a number for how big that outlier is allowed to be. The average Joe doesn't have that problem. It's a quick glance, best guess type of thing. Yes, no...if maybe, then no.

As for the outliers in the cluster analysis, let's say that anyone who has above noise, recent non-European genetic ancestry is an outlier. Above noise means over 2%, and recent means post-Iron Age, because there haven't been any major population movements into Europe since then. I don't think that's too arbitrary.

06-08-2012, 12:54 AM	#40
Zdfjpbth Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 596 Senior Member	I can guarantee you that what is percieved as "white" in e.g. Greece is quite different from what is percieved as white in e.g. Sweden. I said "average Joe" for a reason. You'll never escape the problem of having to draw a line somewhere. And that line is bound to be arbitrary. You even said it yourself now - "whoever shows up as an outlier". Well, you gotta subjectively pick a number for how big that outlier is allowed to be. The average Joe doesn't have that problem. It's a quick glance, best guess type of thing. Yes, no...if maybe, then no. As for the outliers in the cluster analysis, let's say that anyone who has above noise, recent non-European genetic ancestry is an outlier. Above noise means over 2%, and recent means post-Iron Age, because there haven't been any major population movements into Europe since then. I don't think that's too arbitrary.
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