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**exsmoker** · 12-31-2010, 09:35 PM

You are misreading the rules. How can you seriously make the argument that Philip Nadel and myself are the same people? We're not. Why do you think this is a serious point. This is a competition for individuals.

Joint enterprise. Collusion. It doesn't require you to be one single person. In fact, it specifically excludes it.

What we choose to do with the money after we win is up to us.
No it isn't. Emphatically not. You have promoted this as supporting a good cause. Pocket the winnings and it would be fraud.

FindLaw has no rules against contest winners donating their prize money to charity. Which is what we both intend to do.
Which charity? The NYRA wouldn't qualify as a registered charity under UK law because over 20% of its total income is going straight to its Executive Director.

Source- http://www.youthrights.org/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=380

And that's even before there's any analysis of expenses.

The only reason I created an entry in the first place was because, when we entered it, it seemed like there would be no competition and we could easily get 1st and 3rd place. So you'll only bend the rules if it looks like you can't win fairly?

Whether the money goes to a cause or not is entirely up to us, so I'm not sure what kind of ethics complaint you could possibly be raising here. No, again. You have promoted this as supporting a good cause.

If you don't believe the money will be donated to the organization, then fine. I really don't care. It is beyond insulting, offensive, and outright dumb to suggest that I, or anyone else in this organization is going to steal from the organization. Give me a break.
You don't need to steal. Hell, it looks like you're already getting at least 1 dollar in every 5 through entirely sanctioned methods that you're pointedly avoiding discussing here.

Asking friends and members to vote for you is not spam.
Had you kept to that, I would never have known about this.

You seem to have some personal grudge against me and come out of the woodwork to blast me every time I post here, so please just relax, maybe take a vacation, or, if it is so hard for you to resist attacking me at every opportunity, then please just put me on your ignore list, it would make things far more peaceful for both of us. Not when I see crap like this. And I strongly advise you not to put me on your ignore list, because I have a distressing habit of backing stuff up. Believe me- you need to defend your position.

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exsmoker Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	You are misreading the rules. How can you seriously make the argument that Philip Nadel and myself are the same people? We're not. Why do you think this is a serious point. This is a competition for individuals. Joint enterprise. Collusion. It doesn't require you to be one single person. In fact, it specifically excludes it. What we choose to do with the money after we win is up to us. No it isn't. Emphatically not. You have promoted this as supporting a good cause. Pocket the winnings and it would be fraud. FindLaw has no rules against contest winners donating their prize money to charity. Which is what we both intend to do. Which charity? The NYRA wouldn't qualify as a registered charity under UK law because over 20% of its total income is going straight to its Executive Director. Source- http://www.youthrights.org/forums/downloads.php?do=file&id=380 And that's even before there's any analysis of expenses. The only reason I created an entry in the first place was because, when we entered it, it seemed like there would be no competition and we could easily get 1st and 3rd place. So you'll only bend the rules if it looks like you can't win fairly? Whether the money goes to a cause or not is entirely up to us, so I'm not sure what kind of ethics complaint you could possibly be raising here. No, again. You have promoted this as supporting a good cause. If you don't believe the money will be donated to the organization, then fine. I really don't care. It is beyond insulting, offensive, and outright dumb to suggest that I, or anyone else in this organization is going to steal from the organization. Give me a break. You don't need to steal. Hell, it looks like you're already getting at least 1 dollar in every 5 through entirely sanctioned methods that you're pointedly avoiding discussing here. Asking friends and members to vote for you is not spam. Had you kept to that, I would never have known about this. You seem to have some personal grudge against me and come out of the woodwork to blast me every time I post here, so please just relax, maybe take a vacation, or, if it is so hard for you to resist attacking me at every opportunity, then please just put me on your ignore list, it would make things far more peaceful for both of us. Not when I see crap like this. And I strongly advise you not to put me on your ignore list, because I have a distressing habit of backing stuff up. Believe me- you need to defend your position.
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