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**Frjrbefd** · 08-02-2012, 04:12 AM

some guy (or other), try to enjoy as wide a range of musical experiences as you can - don't feel limited to just contemporary/avant garde.

Not only do you know that I am "bitter and twisted," you also know what I do and do not listen to.

How did you come about this knowledge? For the record, I enjoy a wide range of music. I do not limit my listening to just (just?) contemporary/avant garde. If you really knew me, you would know that. (But you'd still probably keep making stuff up; that does seem to be your forte!)

Anyway, for the record, contemporary classical music--the real stuff, not Dirigent's parodies--is perfectly fine. It's various and enjoyable. It doesn't sound like Brahms, most of it, but then neither does Brahms sound particularly like Berlioz, or either like Buxtehude.

I enjoy listening to contemporary classical music and have done so ever since 1972 (and even before). 1972 was just when it really took hold.

There are people who don't like it, as we know, but their not liking it does not mean it's unlikable. It's likable all right!

Some people, many people, feel entitled to say any old stupid, ignorant, outrageous thing about contemporary music--it's fair game, apparently. And they do not like being called out for their behavior. Boy howdy! Since contemporary classical is fair game, only slams, disses, and parodies are allowed. Defenses of the music are either ridiculed or incredulously praised. Both miss the point, which is that people who listen to contemporary classical, hard as it is to believe, do so because they like it. Because it's interesting and gripping and fulfilling. Sorta like Bach and Beethoven and Dvorak, eh?

But because it's so little understood (by people who revel in their lack of understanding), because it's so little listened to and appreciated by the vast majority of classical listeners, it doesn't have to be respected--at the very least--and when its proponents, weary of the endless litany of grossly unfair and impertinent claims about its putative qualities, display that weariness (which is not allowed!!), they are accused of being bitter and twisted.

Why, it's enough to turn the sweetest and straightest dispostition into something quite other!!

08-02-2012, 04:12 AM	#26
Frjrbefd Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	some guy (or other), try to enjoy as wide a range of musical experiences as you can - don't feel limited to just contemporary/avant garde. Not only do you know that I am "bitter and twisted," you also know what I do and do not listen to. How did you come about this knowledge? For the record, I enjoy a wide range of music. I do not limit my listening to just (just?) contemporary/avant garde. If you really knew me, you would know that. (But you'd still probably keep making stuff up; that does seem to be your forte!) Anyway, for the record, contemporary classical music--the real stuff, not Dirigent's parodies--is perfectly fine. It's various and enjoyable. It doesn't sound like Brahms, most of it, but then neither does Brahms sound particularly like Berlioz, or either like Buxtehude. I enjoy listening to contemporary classical music and have done so ever since 1972 (and even before). 1972 was just when it really took hold. There are people who don't like it, as we know, but their not liking it does not mean it's unlikable. It's likable all right! Some people, many people, feel entitled to say any old stupid, ignorant, outrageous thing about contemporary music--it's fair game, apparently. And they do not like being called out for their behavior. Boy howdy! Since contemporary classical is fair game, only slams, disses, and parodies are allowed. Defenses of the music are either ridiculed or incredulously praised. Both miss the point, which is that people who listen to contemporary classical, hard as it is to believe, do so because they like it. Because it's interesting and gripping and fulfilling. Sorta like Bach and Beethoven and Dvorak, eh? But because it's so little understood (by people who revel in their lack of understanding), because it's so little listened to and appreciated by the vast majority of classical listeners, it doesn't have to be respected--at the very least--and when its proponents, weary of the endless litany of grossly unfair and impertinent claims about its putative qualities, display that weariness (which is not allowed!!), they are accused of being bitter and twisted. Why, it's enough to turn the sweetest and straightest dispostition into something quite other!!
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