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**girlsround** · 05-05-2012, 05:22 PM

I understand why you would believe that. I disagree as I believe that line of thinking is a conditioned response, systematically drummed into the party loyalists who fail to see they are being played.

The way out is not ONE person. Agreed. Our savior is not Ron Paul or any other candidate that promises the moon or says what we want to hear. The way out is a strong voice of dissension, steady , strong and willing to cast off the shackles of Congress against the Constitution.

I believe the delineation between O and R and the respective parties is unclear. That is why many people believe the way to dig out is to start now and be prepared to stick it out for the long-haul.

thats great rhetoric, but exactly how do you expect to implement it? Does electing obama make it harder or easier? you say "start now" well isn't a good start removing obama?

as much as goatboy says it, obama and romney are NOT the same.

If you stick to your plan and vote 3rd party, then obama gets another 4 years. 4 years where he can do whatever he wants because he does not have to worry about reelection--how will that help achieve your goals?

I thought as you do years ago and voted for Perot---that got us Clinton.

05-05-2012, 05:22 PM	#21
girlsround Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 510 Senior Member	I understand why you would believe that. I disagree as I believe that line of thinking is a conditioned response, systematically drummed into the party loyalists who fail to see they are being played. The way out is not ONE person. Agreed. Our savior is not Ron Paul or any other candidate that promises the moon or says what we want to hear. The way out is a strong voice of dissension, steady , strong and willing to cast off the shackles of Congress against the Constitution. I believe the delineation between O and R and the respective parties is unclear. That is why many people believe the way to dig out is to start now and be prepared to stick it out for the long-haul. thats great rhetoric, but exactly how do you expect to implement it? Does electing obama make it harder or easier? you say "start now" well isn't a good start removing obama? as much as goatboy says it, obama and romney are NOT the same. If you stick to your plan and vote 3rd party, then obama gets another 4 years. 4 years where he can do whatever he wants because he does not have to worry about reelection--how will that help achieve your goals? I thought as you do years ago and voted for Perot---that got us Clinton.
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