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**Darnisg** · 01-26-2012, 04:32 PM

Because they're not going to get anything out of it anywhere commensurate with what they put in. SS is not a welfare program. It was supposed to be insurance, for everybody. If we're ditching that and calling it welfare, take the fucking special tax away and pay for it out of the general fund, like all welfare programs.

I'll have no more of this bullshit talk about taxing the rich more and means-testing for SS. If you can't fix it the way it is, and keep the promises that you all seem to care so much about, abolish the fucking program immediately and try to start a replacement welfare program. Fuck you if you don't get anything back after paying in. That's what you get for being a sucker.

Did I say means test it? NO. But lets face reality. SS is a tax, there is no lock box where your money is being put away for your retirement. That ended when congress first stole it to cover their mismanagement of the budget.

So, now that its a tax to provide retirement income for retired people, lets collect it on all income. There is no logical reason why people like Buffet, Gates, and Oprah should only pay it on the first 110K of income, and if a person'e sole source of income is capital gains, then collect SS on that income.

01-26-2012, 04:32 PM	#16
Darnisg Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Because they're not going to get anything out of it anywhere commensurate with what they put in. SS is not a welfare program. It was supposed to be insurance, for everybody. If we're ditching that and calling it welfare, take the fucking special tax away and pay for it out of the general fund, like all welfare programs. I'll have no more of this bullshit talk about taxing the rich more and means-testing for SS. If you can't fix it the way it is, and keep the promises that you all seem to care so much about, abolish the fucking program immediately and try to start a replacement welfare program. Fuck you if you don't get anything back after paying in. That's what you get for being a sucker. Did I say means test it? NO. But lets face reality. SS is a tax, there is no lock box where your money is being put away for your retirement. That ended when congress first stole it to cover their mismanagement of the budget. So, now that its a tax to provide retirement income for retired people, lets collect it on all income. There is no logical reason why people like Buffet, Gates, and Oprah should only pay it on the first 110K of income, and if a person'e sole source of income is capital gains, then collect SS on that income.
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