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Old 01-29-2012, 05:12 PM   #22
hujdrftgkas

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First, THEY ARE FUCKING STUPID. Let's just get that out of the way.. They're FUCKING STUPID. We've known it since the 70's.. We've known it all along. Now the day of reckoning is at hand, they are wrong, the money is not there, they are FUCKING STUPID.

Two.. They don't care! There's massive support for these programs.. Even with Republicans..

In fact, the Independents are more reasonable about it than the Republican voters are..

So, what happens when they hear GOP politicians talk about cutting them? They say nothing will change.. But, we hear a lot of GOP talking heads wanting them removed.. Or bankrupted.

I say it wouldn't take a lot of pushing to scare these people off... And that it will only get worse with time.
Very well, they are stupid. Fine, now that IS out of the way.
But I look at this as a practical matter, not a philisophical one. That means we need votes. Getting votes requires sucking ass, unfortunately. That's why I say let the old timers get what they want but don't continue to promise it to everyone else.
If we ended SS for everyone under 20 today, we would need the program to last about 60 years. I don't know how much that would cost. "Enslaving" the younger generations with it is no different than enslaving them with farm subsidies and foreign aid. The money could come from ending or diminishing such programs.
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