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**moredasers** · 01-01-2012, 09:07 PM

This entire argument seems very simple to me.. It boils down to:

1) Do we support the Constitution and limited government, or don't we?

2) Do we believe in just war and good faith, or don't we?

Because what I see advocated is mutually exclusive.. You can't have both.

You can't have the Constitution and limited government, and the security state.. Or a global empire.

You have to choose... Because the needs and costs of one will take precedence over the other.

01-01-2012, 09:07 PM	#13
moredasers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 437 Senior Member	This entire argument seems very simple to me.. It boils down to: 1) Do we support the Constitution and limited government, or don't we? 2) Do we believe in just war and good faith, or don't we? Because what I see advocated is mutually exclusive.. You can't have both. You can't have the Constitution and limited government, and the security state.. Or a global empire. You have to choose... Because the needs and costs of one will take precedence over the other.
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