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**Trotoleterm** · 09-10-2009, 08:49 PM

Edit: Why the **** are you talking about lawyers? Is the ACORN person giving advice a lawyer now? Focus, FOCUS please.

Oh brother. It's called an a fortiori argument. Lawyers, for myriad reasons of public policy, have the benefit of certain protections from punishment when they knowingly conceal a client's guilt for a crime, protections which ordinary citizens do not have. An ACORN "tax specialist" is such an ordinary citizen. A lawyer engaging in the conduct on that video would not be protected from punishment. A fortiori, a "tax specialist" engaging in the same conduct would definitely be **** out of luck. Focus please.

I'm saying these people came to someone for tax advice who gave them some shady tax advice. I'm sure that's a crime, but it's also exceptionally common across all swaths of society (actually, probably most likely with the white-male professional crowd that votes Republican). But it doesn't really have anything to do with the organization she works/volunteers for unless you have evidence of systemic guidance from ACORN to give illegal advice.

This is scaremongering by Republicans trying to get an organization shut down that increases the low-income (read: democrat) vote. Pathetic. Especially the fact that it apparently took them several trips to several ACORN offices to find someone to say something they could use.

I don't disagree with this part one bit. The fact that a grip of people get away with X or Y crime doesn't make the individual crime a-ok, but you're right that fixating on ACORN's tip of the proverbial iceberg is much ado about nothing.

09-10-2009, 08:49 PM	#11
Trotoleterm Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	Edit: Why the **** are you talking about lawyers? Is the ACORN person giving advice a lawyer now? Focus, FOCUS please. Oh brother. It's called an a fortiori argument. Lawyers, for myriad reasons of public policy, have the benefit of certain protections from punishment when they knowingly conceal a client's guilt for a crime, protections which ordinary citizens do not have. An ACORN "tax specialist" is such an ordinary citizen. A lawyer engaging in the conduct on that video would not be protected from punishment. A fortiori, a "tax specialist" engaging in the same conduct would definitely be **** out of luck. Focus please. I'm saying these people came to someone for tax advice who gave them some shady tax advice. I'm sure that's a crime, but it's also exceptionally common across all swaths of society (actually, probably most likely with the white-male professional crowd that votes Republican). But it doesn't really have anything to do with the organization she works/volunteers for unless you have evidence of systemic guidance from ACORN to give illegal advice. This is scaremongering by Republicans trying to get an organization shut down that increases the low-income (read: democrat) vote. Pathetic. Especially the fact that it apparently took them several trips to several ACORN offices to find someone to say something they could use. I don't disagree with this part one bit. The fact that a grip of people get away with X or Y crime doesn't make the individual crime a-ok, but you're right that fixating on ACORN's tip of the proverbial iceberg is much ado about nothing.
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