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**brilkyPlayday** · 06-13-2009, 06:20 AM

You're way exaggerating. First off, we're talking about just the EU, not the rest of the countries in the UN.

This doesn't matter at all.

Secondly, we're talking about a separate installation package just to download and boot the browsers' installation package. This makes no sense. How does this package magically get onto the computer if it is not installed?

Lastly, the cost of maintaining a list of competitors and facilitating installation of their software is just the cost of doing business as a monopoly. They're not a monopoly, as Apple's ads clearly indicate.

We've all been over this before. IE's marketshare is in rapid decline, all of the comments about IE being unstoppable and unfairly bundled were made by epic retards and I was very clear about that years ago when they said it. Build a better browser, and people will use it...they did.

I'm calling you out on this, Dan. You can continue arguing with me on this if you wish but it's be fruitless as you're completely wrong and out of your comfort zone in arguing about software development procedures.

Anything that alters the installation of Windows at this point WILL DELAY THE OS SIGNIFICANTLY. You do not seem to comprehend the legal headaches there are associated with MS linking to sites they do not control to install apps they did not write and can't predict what they'll be. Not to mention the issues of putting this through another test cycle and getting this translated and the updated documentation.

It is a herculean effort to put in a huge release of Windows and that's precisely why there's a 6 month delay between Code Complete/RTM and actual release. The last new features to Windows 7 were completed half a year ago at this point! And you're not even talking about simply adding a feature, you want something to be designed, implemented, tested, coordinated with all of the various makers, legal hurdles cleared, translations done, documentation updated, then tens of millions of discs manufacturers and OEMs updated with the latest procedures so they can build and test their images prior to the Windows 7 launch.

This is not a tiny thing! It's massive.

06-13-2009, 06:20 AM	#34
brilkyPlayday Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 444 Senior Member	You're way exaggerating. First off, we're talking about just the EU, not the rest of the countries in the UN. This doesn't matter at all. Secondly, we're talking about a separate installation package just to download and boot the browsers' installation package. This makes no sense. How does this package magically get onto the computer if it is not installed? Lastly, the cost of maintaining a list of competitors and facilitating installation of their software is just the cost of doing business as a monopoly. They're not a monopoly, as Apple's ads clearly indicate. We've all been over this before. IE's marketshare is in rapid decline, all of the comments about IE being unstoppable and unfairly bundled were made by epic retards and I was very clear about that years ago when they said it. Build a better browser, and people will use it...they did. I'm calling you out on this, Dan. You can continue arguing with me on this if you wish but it's be fruitless as you're completely wrong and out of your comfort zone in arguing about software development procedures. Anything that alters the installation of Windows at this point WILL DELAY THE OS SIGNIFICANTLY. You do not seem to comprehend the legal headaches there are associated with MS linking to sites they do not control to install apps they did not write and can't predict what they'll be. Not to mention the issues of putting this through another test cycle and getting this translated and the updated documentation. It is a herculean effort to put in a huge release of Windows and that's precisely why there's a 6 month delay between Code Complete/RTM and actual release. The last new features to Windows 7 were completed half a year ago at this point! And you're not even talking about simply adding a feature, you want something to be designed, implemented, tested, coordinated with all of the various makers, legal hurdles cleared, translations done, documentation updated, then tens of millions of discs manufacturers and OEMs updated with the latest procedures so they can build and test their images prior to the Windows 7 launch. This is not a tiny thing! It's massive.
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