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**r5YOPDyk** · 10-26-2007, 04:07 PM

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Treaty of tripoli, article 11, 1797. Signed by James Adams.

Actually, it definitely was based on Christian PRINCIPLES. Many people have debated it, but over and over, the debates sided with those who showed the Christian connection. However, note that the principles are a lot different than the religion. In fact, at the time of founding, the "Church" was violating quite a few Christian principles.

Time and again, though, the Supreme Court has taken it upon themselves to redefine the constitution to say something that it definitely does not say, nor intend. This is not the first time this has happened, and I doubt it will be the last. Given time, I have no doubt that they will reverse themselves, as new Justices are appointed and these things are revisited. But after a time, they will swing back again. While they play with the constitution and with redefining it, unfortunately it is the average citizens that get caught in the middle.

I find it very interesting that while the Supreme Court also is bent on more and wider reaching governmental controls on so many things, Ben Franklin was a staunch supporter of smaller government and less regulation. Some have gone so far as to call him an anarchist, though I don't think I'd go quite that far. But he did believe that the power should lie in the hands of the people, not in the government. Unfortunately, the exact opposite is true today.

Possibly trivia facts, possibly more than that, but the Constitution of the US was written, not by one man, but by 55. Many of these founding fathers held very strong diametrically opposed views. Also, George Washington held a belief that it wouldn't last 20 years.

10-26-2007, 04:07 PM	#25
r5YOPDyk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 442 Senior Member	http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html Treaty of tripoli, article 11, 1797. Signed by James Adams. Actually, it definitely was based on Christian PRINCIPLES. Many people have debated it, but over and over, the debates sided with those who showed the Christian connection. However, note that the principles are a lot different than the religion. In fact, at the time of founding, the "Church" was violating quite a few Christian principles. Time and again, though, the Supreme Court has taken it upon themselves to redefine the constitution to say something that it definitely does not say, nor intend. This is not the first time this has happened, and I doubt it will be the last. Given time, I have no doubt that they will reverse themselves, as new Justices are appointed and these things are revisited. But after a time, they will swing back again. While they play with the constitution and with redefining it, unfortunately it is the average citizens that get caught in the middle. I find it very interesting that while the Supreme Court also is bent on more and wider reaching governmental controls on so many things, Ben Franklin was a staunch supporter of smaller government and less regulation. Some have gone so far as to call him an anarchist, though I don't think I'd go quite that far. But he did believe that the power should lie in the hands of the people, not in the government. Unfortunately, the exact opposite is true today. Possibly trivia facts, possibly more than that, but the Constitution of the US was written, not by one man, but by 55. Many of these founding fathers held very strong diametrically opposed views. Also, George Washington held a belief that it wouldn't last 20 years.
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