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**markoiutrfffdsa** · 10-27-2007, 10:55 PM

The fallacy is the one in this statement: "one cannot use the word "Christian" without invoking the thought "Christian Religion"."

That is simply not true. For people that aren't open minded to ALL religions, I can understand the statement, but it still is not true.

And I will, of course, strongly disagree with your analysis of this thought.

Just ask anyone, "Are you a Christian?" They will automatically understand your question to be asking, "Do you follow the Christian religion?"

If you ask someone if the believe and follow "Christian Principles" they would still understand the question to be asking, "Do you follow the Christian religion?"

Our brain works by association. That's the way it is.

But then, I want you and everyone else to know that I am not bashing the Christian religion. All I am saying is that "Religion" and "Government" must remain separate.

It has always been my belief that one should follow whatever life system one feels confortable with as long as it does no harm to others. But I also believe that no one has the right to force their religious beliefs on others.

I did not go to war (Vietnam) for God and country. I went to war for my country. If I were to believe in a God, my God would not want me to kill another human being. My philosophy teaches that I should not harm another animal except for the purpose of self-survival.

I do not follow Christian Principles. I follow Taoist Principles. There are many principles common to both beliefs. But I do not ask that a picture of Lao Tzu be posted somewhere in the White House or Congress. I should never be asked to swear allegiance to God by my government.

Religion and spiritual beliefs are a person's very personal affair and those beliefs should not be tampered with by government.

Even in our courts, when one is required to swear an oath on the Christian Bible is a violation of separation of Church and State.

Actually, I consider myself rather open-minded. And yes, I am liberal in two extremes - universal education and universal health care. But that is all. I do not at all support our welfare system - it sucks. But then, on the other hand, I support a system of social assistance for those 'unable' to provide for themselves.

I do not believe in the need for wars. If someone needs be killed then kill that person, not ten of thousands of innocent women and children while attempting to kill the one you want dead.

Oh, I could go on and on but I will stop (for now).

Peace & Love!

10-27-2007, 10:55 PM	#36
markoiutrfffdsa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	The fallacy is the one in this statement: "one cannot use the word "Christian" without invoking the thought "Christian Religion"." That is simply not true. For people that aren't open minded to ALL religions, I can understand the statement, but it still is not true. And I will, of course, strongly disagree with your analysis of this thought. Just ask anyone, "Are you a Christian?" They will automatically understand your question to be asking, "Do you follow the Christian religion?" If you ask someone if the believe and follow "Christian Principles" they would still understand the question to be asking, "Do you follow the Christian religion?" Our brain works by association. That's the way it is. But then, I want you and everyone else to know that I am not bashing the Christian religion. All I am saying is that "Religion" and "Government" must remain separate. It has always been my belief that one should follow whatever life system one feels confortable with as long as it does no harm to others. But I also believe that no one has the right to force their religious beliefs on others. I did not go to war (Vietnam) for God and country. I went to war for my country. If I were to believe in a God, my God would not want me to kill another human being. My philosophy teaches that I should not harm another animal except for the purpose of self-survival. I do not follow Christian Principles. I follow Taoist Principles. There are many principles common to both beliefs. But I do not ask that a picture of Lao Tzu be posted somewhere in the White House or Congress. I should never be asked to swear allegiance to God by my government. Religion and spiritual beliefs are a person's very personal affair and those beliefs should not be tampered with by government. Even in our courts, when one is required to swear an oath on the Christian Bible is a violation of separation of Church and State. Actually, I consider myself rather open-minded. And yes, I am liberal in two extremes - universal education and universal health care. But that is all. I do not at all support our welfare system - it sucks. But then, on the other hand, I support a system of social assistance for those 'unable' to provide for themselves. I do not believe in the need for wars. If someone needs be killed then kill that person, not ten of thousands of innocent women and children while attempting to kill the one you want dead. Oh, I could go on and on but I will stop (for now). Peace & Love!
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