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**nuveem7070** · 07-18-2006, 01:27 AM

It seems that there are only two basic possibilities for "Which came first?"

1) Matter spawned consciousness... that is consciousness is a natural evolution of the material world.. Matter existed first.

2) Consciousness created matter... that is matter is a dream, or the matrix that we live in.. but Consciousness existed in the 'void'

Personally, I subscribe to #2 (although earlier in my life, I believed #1). What changed my mind was a long series of events which showed me that there are things which exist outside of the material world described by science.

One big one was Pamela Reynolds' brain surgery, where all the blood was removed from her body. Cooled to 60 degrees, and with all brain waves ceased, surgeons repaired bad blood vessels in her brain. When she was revived (a miracle in itself), she could remember all the details of her surgery, as an observer to the 3 hour operation.

So, which do you believe and why?

07-18-2006, 01:27 AM	#1
nuveem7070 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	Which came first? It seems that there are only two basic possibilities for "Which came first?" 1) Matter spawned consciousness... that is consciousness is a natural evolution of the material world.. Matter existed first. 2) Consciousness created matter... that is matter is a dream, or the matrix that we live in.. but Consciousness existed in the 'void' Personally, I subscribe to #2 (although earlier in my life, I believed #1). What changed my mind was a long series of events which showed me that there are things which exist outside of the material world described by science. One big one was Pamela Reynolds' brain surgery, where all the blood was removed from her body. Cooled to 60 degrees, and with all brain waves ceased, surgeons repaired bad blood vessels in her brain. When she was revived (a miracle in itself), she could remember all the details of her surgery, as an observer to the 3 hour operation. So, which do you believe and why?
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