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**Talicoabilk** · 06-13-2012, 04:44 PM

I dont know what suttas that talk about it.
But

All sickness come from karmic reaction in some way, also the sickness of the brain. it can have been caused from a earlier life and that this life you have to pay the karma back.
But in any case killing is wrong in my view. even killing an mosquito on purpose is wrong.

The thinker

How can you say that, when so much science has facts to prove the contrary?

Many people are simply born the way they are born, due to genetical flaws or biological and psychological influences. We know this.

The woman who goes insane with PTSD - Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome - from having been gang raped, and never recovers, who spends every night in her padded room rocking back and forth, remembering and reliving each moment, day after day, with no escape but suicide, which is the reason for the padded room in the first place... Is she the result of bad Karma done by herself? What do you do to deserve gang rape? Or is it from a past life, and entirely 'different' person, who just happened to have shared the same conciousness or soul, possibly a man, who himself, went about raping other women? That past life that she doesn't even remember a single bit of? That is rediculous, even hurtful to those particular individuals who have suffered such atrocities.

I believe no person has the right to deny a persons choice of wether or not to continue on.

As far as those who are not competent, but not aged, just extremely mentally ill, and not suffering any physical pain... They should be studied so as to know that suffering as deeply as possible, to prevent it in the future. As far as them being killed out of mercy, for intense phsyical, and biological pain, their families should decide that, their community, since they are not competent themselves too.But so many of those who are of extreme cases, their is no forseeable recovery for them. Many patients in Psych Wards will live the rest of their lives their, with no real recovery, ever. Like the ones who have major head injuries and have their minds erased of all experience since the accident after every 15 SECONDS. To deny a man or woman in that particular case, who say, contracts a disease that invokes nothing but tortuous pain until they literally die from the shock to the system, death, is just horrible, IMO.

As far as the aged who are suffering, such as those like my own grandmother, who has alzheimers, who as far as the mind goes, is not even really there. She suffers from arthritis, she has to have a pill each and every day to moderate her pain, which is thankfully not very severe. But now say she had parkinsens or her arthritis progressed to an extreme level to wear no drug could soothe the pain. To deny her death, and only grant her a life of extreme pain, mind you, she really cannot think on a level as you and I anymore, so there would be nothing 'but' that pain, and to deny her death, would be cruel beyond imagining.

Mercy killing is not something for any scripture in the world to decide, but for those loved ones of those suffering, and their community. After deep looking into that patients suffering, living in their shoes, seeing what they go through, that is when the decision can be made. No scripture can decide something like that.

06-13-2012, 04:44 PM	#4
Talicoabilk Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	I dont know what suttas that talk about it. But All sickness come from karmic reaction in some way, also the sickness of the brain. it can have been caused from a earlier life and that this life you have to pay the karma back. But in any case killing is wrong in my view. even killing an mosquito on purpose is wrong. The thinker How can you say that, when so much science has facts to prove the contrary? Many people are simply born the way they are born, due to genetical flaws or biological and psychological influences. We know this. The woman who goes insane with PTSD - Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome - from having been gang raped, and never recovers, who spends every night in her padded room rocking back and forth, remembering and reliving each moment, day after day, with no escape but suicide, which is the reason for the padded room in the first place... Is she the result of bad Karma done by herself? What do you do to deserve gang rape? Or is it from a past life, and entirely 'different' person, who just happened to have shared the same conciousness or soul, possibly a man, who himself, went about raping other women? That past life that she doesn't even remember a single bit of? That is rediculous, even hurtful to those particular individuals who have suffered such atrocities. I believe no person has the right to deny a persons choice of wether or not to continue on. As far as those who are not competent, but not aged, just extremely mentally ill, and not suffering any physical pain... They should be studied so as to know that suffering as deeply as possible, to prevent it in the future. As far as them being killed out of mercy, for intense phsyical, and biological pain, their families should decide that, their community, since they are not competent themselves too.But so many of those who are of extreme cases, their is no forseeable recovery for them. Many patients in Psych Wards will live the rest of their lives their, with no real recovery, ever. Like the ones who have major head injuries and have their minds erased of all experience since the accident after every 15 SECONDS. To deny a man or woman in that particular case, who say, contracts a disease that invokes nothing but tortuous pain until they literally die from the shock to the system, death, is just horrible, IMO. As far as the aged who are suffering, such as those like my own grandmother, who has alzheimers, who as far as the mind goes, is not even really there. She suffers from arthritis, she has to have a pill each and every day to moderate her pain, which is thankfully not very severe. But now say she had parkinsens or her arthritis progressed to an extreme level to wear no drug could soothe the pain. To deny her death, and only grant her a life of extreme pain, mind you, she really cannot think on a level as you and I anymore, so there would be nothing 'but' that pain, and to deny her death, would be cruel beyond imagining. Mercy killing is not something for any scripture in the world to decide, but for those loved ones of those suffering, and their community. After deep looking into that patients suffering, living in their shoes, seeing what they go through, that is when the decision can be made. No scripture can decide something like that.
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