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**khjhkfggt** · 06-13-2012, 05:45 AM

hi Goughy

i think it is more accurate to hold that the buddha did not actually lose anything. if we think we will be losing something by giving it up then i would suggest to not give it up. the buddha did not lose anything. when he gave up his palace, wife & child, he did not want these things anymore because, for him, they could not bring him happiness

again, this view is not accurate. the Prince spent 6 years searching for the path. when he meditated for six years, for most of that time, it was wrong meditation. but when he discovered the Path and became Buddha, his disciples only meditated for a short time before they gained enlightenment. for some of his disciples, it is reported their enlightenment required 7 days of meditation rather than 6 years of meditation

yes, you sound new. if you are very motivated to end suffering. i.e., find the here-&-now peace of Nirvana, then generally, taking a period of time out, such as one year, to meditate most of the day, i would recommend. but, as i mentioned, if we feel we are giving up something then we may not be ready for serious practise

to be a Buddhist, there is both the life of a serious meditator, such as a monk, and the life of a layperson. if we are lay people then Buddhism offers many ways of skilful living which allow the everyday lay person to live a far happier & far less problematic life . often it is said one is fully a Buddhist is one at least follows the five precepts

warm regards

element

Hi Element,
I disagree almost entirely with all 3 parts of your post and a few other statements.

IMHO TO BE A BUDDHA you DO have to give up all your wordly possessions and any attachment you may have had toward them. You WILL have to abandon those who love you to pursue your path to enlightenment. And isolating yourself for a year is NOT going to be enough time to allow for enlightenment. No meditation is considered WRONG, it all leads us to the path. It's how we eventually arrive.

Goughyyy -
Specifically I'd like to ask you - do you want to be a Buddhist or a Buddha?

It makes a difference.

06-13-2012, 05:45 AM	#8
khjhkfggt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 396 Senior Member	hi Goughy i think it is more accurate to hold that the buddha did not actually lose anything. if we think we will be losing something by giving it up then i would suggest to not give it up. the buddha did not lose anything. when he gave up his palace, wife & child, he did not want these things anymore because, for him, they could not bring him happiness again, this view is not accurate. the Prince spent 6 years searching for the path. when he meditated for six years, for most of that time, it was wrong meditation. but when he discovered the Path and became Buddha, his disciples only meditated for a short time before they gained enlightenment. for some of his disciples, it is reported their enlightenment required 7 days of meditation rather than 6 years of meditation yes, you sound new. if you are very motivated to end suffering. i.e., find the here-&-now peace of Nirvana, then generally, taking a period of time out, such as one year, to meditate most of the day, i would recommend. but, as i mentioned, if we feel we are giving up something then we may not be ready for serious practise to be a Buddhist, there is both the life of a serious meditator, such as a monk, and the life of a layperson. if we are lay people then Buddhism offers many ways of skilful living which allow the everyday lay person to live a far happier & far less problematic life . often it is said one is fully a Buddhist is one at least follows the five precepts warm regards element Hi Element, I disagree almost entirely with all 3 parts of your post and a few other statements. IMHO TO BE A BUDDHA you DO have to give up all your wordly possessions and any attachment you may have had toward them. You WILL have to abandon those who love you to pursue your path to enlightenment. And isolating yourself for a year is NOT going to be enough time to allow for enlightenment. No meditation is considered WRONG, it all leads us to the path. It's how we eventually arrive. Goughyyy - Specifically I'd like to ask you - do you want to be a Buddhist or a Buddha? It makes a difference.
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