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**timgillmoreeztf** · 03-21-2012, 02:29 AM

I know this is probably a rookie contradiction and you're probably tired of hearing it - but to desire the end of suffering - does that not cause suffering in itself?

hello GT

my answer to your question is "no"

there are two kinds of desire: (1) craving, which is the subject of the 2nd Noble Truth; and (2) right intention, which is the 2nd factor of the Eightfold Path

a metaphor about renunciation can help us understand the two kinds of desire. a person has a spear, sword or other kind of weapon in their hand. it takes a large & forceful amount of desire to thrust that weapon to harm or kill. or it takes a small & gentle amount of desire, to open up one's hand and let that weapon go, to lay down that sword & shield

everything we do requires an act of desire or intention. some intentions lead to suffering while other intentions lead to freedom

kind regards

03-21-2012, 02:29 AM	#6
timgillmoreeztf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 341 Senior Member	I know this is probably a rookie contradiction and you're probably tired of hearing it - but to desire the end of suffering - does that not cause suffering in itself? hello GT my answer to your question is "no" there are two kinds of desire: (1) craving, which is the subject of the 2nd Noble Truth; and (2) right intention, which is the 2nd factor of the Eightfold Path a metaphor about renunciation can help us understand the two kinds of desire. a person has a spear, sword or other kind of weapon in their hand. it takes a large & forceful amount of desire to thrust that weapon to harm or kill. or it takes a small & gentle amount of desire, to open up one's hand and let that weapon go, to lay down that sword & shield everything we do requires an act of desire or intention. some intentions lead to suffering while other intentions lead to freedom kind regards
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