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**stoneeZef** · 03-21-2012, 10:56 PM

hello GT

my answer to your question is "no"

there are two kinds of desire: (1) craving, which is the subject of the 2nd Noble Truth; and (2) right intention, which is the 2nd factor of the Eightfold Path

a metaphor about renunciation can help us understand the two kinds of desire. a person has a spear, sword or other kind of weapon in their hand. it takes a large & forceful amount of desire to thrust that weapon to harm or kill. or it takes a small & gentle amount of desire, to open up one's hand and let that weapon go, to lay down that sword & shield

everything we do requires an act of desire or intention. some intentions lead to suffering while other intentions lead to freedom

kind regards

That's actually a good metaphor. Really made me think. I can still argue though that letting go of the weapon is still a struggle in itself. Letting go of our attachments is a journey.

Maybe that's the wrong battle? Maybe the right battle ought to be learning which thoughts bring you closer to enlightenment and which thoughts take you away from it?

This is a good idea. I just need to be careful to not be suddenly dividing and conquering everything as beneficial towards enlightenment and not - and not just simply accepting my thoughts as they are and not labeling them.

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stoneeZef Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	hello GT my answer to your question is "no" there are two kinds of desire: (1) craving, which is the subject of the 2nd Noble Truth; and (2) right intention, which is the 2nd factor of the Eightfold Path a metaphor about renunciation can help us understand the two kinds of desire. a person has a spear, sword or other kind of weapon in their hand. it takes a large & forceful amount of desire to thrust that weapon to harm or kill. or it takes a small & gentle amount of desire, to open up one's hand and let that weapon go, to lay down that sword & shield everything we do requires an act of desire or intention. some intentions lead to suffering while other intentions lead to freedom kind regards That's actually a good metaphor. Really made me think. I can still argue though that letting go of the weapon is still a struggle in itself. Letting go of our attachments is a journey. Maybe that's the wrong battle? Maybe the right battle ought to be learning which thoughts bring you closer to enlightenment and which thoughts take you away from it? This is a good idea. I just need to be careful to not be suddenly dividing and conquering everything as beneficial towards enlightenment and not - and not just simply accepting my thoughts as they are and not labeling them.
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