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**Paladin** · 03-06-2012, 11:34 AM

In the Chinese Buddhism traditions (And I guess Mahayana in general), there is a concept of 3 marks of genuine Buddhism (3 Dharma seals), which are anicca, anatta and nirvana.

At Ken Mcleod's "Unfettered Mind" Mahayana website he outlines the 3 Marks of Existence as Change, Suffering and Non-Self.

http://www.unfetteredmind.org/three-marks-three-doors

The Three Marks of Existence are described by Pema Chodron (Tibetan Buddhism) as Impermanence, Suffering and Egolessness.

http://buddhism.about.com/gi/o.htm?z...hree-marks.cfm

So both teachers are saying anicca, dukkha, and anatta and not anicca, anatta and nirvana.

However Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche (TB) describes four characteristics or "seals of Dharma"

All compounded things are impermanent.

All emotions are painful. This is something that only Buddhists would talk about. Many religions worship things like love with celebration and songs. Buddhists think, “This is all suffering.”

All phenomena are empty; they are without inherent existence. This is actually the ultimate view of Buddhism; the other three are grounded on this third seal.

The fourth seal is that nirvana is beyond extremes.

http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.ph...k=view&id=1814

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03-06-2012, 11:34 AM	#5
Paladin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 306 Senior Member	In the Chinese Buddhism traditions (And I guess Mahayana in general), there is a concept of 3 marks of genuine Buddhism (3 Dharma seals), which are anicca, anatta and nirvana. At Ken Mcleod's "Unfettered Mind" Mahayana website he outlines the 3 Marks of Existence as Change, Suffering and Non-Self. http://www.unfetteredmind.org/three-marks-three-doors The Three Marks of Existence are described by Pema Chodron (Tibetan Buddhism) as Impermanence, Suffering and Egolessness. http://buddhism.about.com/gi/o.htm?z...hree-marks.cfm So both teachers are saying anicca, dukkha, and anatta and not anicca, anatta and nirvana. However Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche (TB) describes four characteristics or "seals of Dharma" All compounded things are impermanent. All emotions are painful. This is something that only Buddhists would talk about. Many religions worship things like love with celebration and songs. Buddhists think, “This is all suffering.” All phenomena are empty; they are without inherent existence. This is actually the ultimate view of Buddhism; the other three are grounded on this third seal. The fourth seal is that nirvana is beyond extremes. http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.ph...k=view&id=1814 .
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