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**tramadolwithall** · 01-16-2012, 06:47 AM

I am new here,
trying to discern if Buddhism is for me or not.

I posed this issue on my intro but this is possibly the place for a debate.

One thing that has stopped me exploring Buddhism in the past is the concept of celibacy. But this I am confused about.

I read a couple of days back that in Tibet, Vajrayana is happy to permit an unusual degree of sexual license among the members of its sangha community of monks, and Ching Tu in China rejects celibacy [Michael Jordan]

Aloka-D response in the introduction was that "In the modern world, those who profess to be Buddhist monks and nuns whist having sex with others, are breaking the Vinaya Vows of the Buddha" something like what I thought before a trip to China a few years back.

So is MJ wrong in his assertions about cellebacy and sexual license in those particular schools?
Was he perhaps intending to say this past tense rather than present? or is it Ok for some schools to break the Vinaya Vows?

01-16-2012, 06:47 AM	#1
tramadolwithall Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	Sexuality I am new here, trying to discern if Buddhism is for me or not. I posed this issue on my intro but this is possibly the place for a debate. One thing that has stopped me exploring Buddhism in the past is the concept of celibacy. But this I am confused about. I read a couple of days back that in Tibet, Vajrayana is happy to permit an unusual degree of sexual license among the members of its sangha community of monks, and Ching Tu in China rejects celibacy [Michael Jordan] Aloka-D response in the introduction was that "In the modern world, those who profess to be Buddhist monks and nuns whist having sex with others, are breaking the Vinaya Vows of the Buddha" something like what I thought before a trip to China a few years back. So is MJ wrong in his assertions about cellebacy and sexual license in those particular schools? Was he perhaps intending to say this past tense rather than present? or is it Ok for some schools to break the Vinaya Vows?
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