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Old 12-05-2011, 12:47 AM   #29
KellyLynchIV

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Hello Yuan,

Second, a layperson might not have a choice, because he or she might have some unpaid "karmic debts" to people surrounding him/her I thought Karama is not determinism! Even a layperson have a choice and it can be found in the "present moment"!. In addtion, when you say "unpaid karmic debts" that requires the existance of an ominiscient being to keep a tally which is not the way i understand the law of Karma.

I don't think your status as a layperson or as a bhikkhus matters. And I don't think Buddha said there is only one path. And I am not sure what's "do thing the right way." Well, i thought that the right path was the one mentioned in the fourth nobel truth!! is there any other path mentioned by the Buddha?

If you do your best to understand and experience these 3 concepts, that's really all you need to be on the right Path.
The benefit of being a bhikkhus might be that it gives you more time to think about these 3 concepts. Maybe. What do you personally think about what Lazy eye said in earlier post: The Pali suttas say that a layperson can achieve the first and second stages of enlightenment and when Aloka quoted: The only stage that the Canon depicts as the near-exclusive domain of monks and nuns is arahantship Do you agree/disagree? Do you think Arahanship is achievable by a layperson?

Regards,
Bundokji
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