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**esanamaserrn** · 10-30-2011, 10:38 PM

Ah, Kaarine...the Buddha did teach rebirth, but not reincarnation. They're pretty much opposite concepts... =)

When it is rebirth as the constant birth of the idea of self in this lifetime, well yes. Buddha taught the endless rebirth of the idea of a Self.

But if it is the rebirth of "something" that goes beyond this present life, I think we are getting into speculation.

Because, what is what experiences rebirth, so to say that such happens form one life to another.

Rebirth into a next existence without consequences of past actions make no sense.

Honestly, FBM, it is a difficult concept to understand for me when rebirth is understood as a happening form this life to another.

For example, Reincarnation, assumes that the experience of self will transcend this life into another with all the consequences of past actions; this, is much more better because it keeps people under an ethical frame so to behave in a wholesome way.

As the rebirth of "what?" leads to much more speculative entanglements and throws away moral fear in people that needs it so to have a wholesome conduct and the practice of loving kindness.

But I am really not sure of all this... I try to be focused in what can be achieved in this moment.

Anyway, I am not closed to the understanding of this if someone helps me to deal with it.

10-30-2011, 10:38 PM	#8
esanamaserrn Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 475 Senior Member	Ah, Kaarine...the Buddha did teach rebirth, but not reincarnation. They're pretty much opposite concepts... =) When it is rebirth as the constant birth of the idea of self in this lifetime, well yes. Buddha taught the endless rebirth of the idea of a Self. But if it is the rebirth of "something" that goes beyond this present life, I think we are getting into speculation. Because, what is what experiences rebirth, so to say that such happens form one life to another. Rebirth into a next existence without consequences of past actions make no sense. Honestly, FBM, it is a difficult concept to understand for me when rebirth is understood as a happening form this life to another. For example, Reincarnation, assumes that the experience of self will transcend this life into another with all the consequences of past actions; this, is much more better because it keeps people under an ethical frame so to behave in a wholesome way. As the rebirth of "what?" leads to much more speculative entanglements and throws away moral fear in people that needs it so to have a wholesome conduct and the practice of loving kindness. But I am really not sure of all this... I try to be focused in what can be achieved in this moment. Anyway, I am not closed to the understanding of this if someone helps me to deal with it.
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