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**SingleMan** · 10-17-2011, 03:38 AM

Hello you all

thank you very much for the thoughtful replies.

Aloka-D - I am going to have to check out the Ajahn Jayasaro videos - I got a good energy from listening to the first one.

fletcher - I agree, I was reminding myself to let go as best I could, but I am still very green at this, and at the end things happened so fast that I got swept up as happens often.

Element - thank you for your kind words

I agree, it felt purifying. Things I had shoved out of the way were coming to a point where I understood them a little more, and then the strong feeling to not want to visit these harms on other beings felt like it was "on the right track" too.

srivijaya -
A clear demonstration of the pain inherent in "self" and "other". We take 'refuge' in self and the life-story it carries around with it. When we learn to let that go, there can be space and understanding. Yeah

grasping, mud-wrestling, wrangling in the mind over experience....I am reading a book by Chogyam Trungpa where he calls this "being a nuisance to oneself." His description makes me laugh

and I so identify with it

Karma Yeshe,

Wow I really like that transcription! Thank you....yeah I have been trying to give it up...bit by bit
I did have some fish, but I had very little meat the past few days and was happy about it

Kaarine Alejandra,

Hey

when talking about this I tend to stick to the personal, like that meditation session I had a few days ago; though if you think it is okay to broaden it then by all means

(my initial reasoning for making that specification in the OP was that the discussion of meat-eating in a more general sense often turns unskillful incredibly quickly.) I agree with a lot of what you say and am trying to find the courage to do the right thing,
I'm finding that if I motivate myself with shame - "I am shameful to eat this!" then I do not get as far as when I appeal to my natural courage, and say, "It takes courage to do the right thing (and I will do it.)" Thanks for your feedback on it, your words remind me of a book I have, the Food Revolution, that I have been meaning to read.

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SingleMan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 459 Senior Member	Hello you all thank you very much for the thoughtful replies. Aloka-D - I am going to have to check out the Ajahn Jayasaro videos - I got a good energy from listening to the first one. fletcher - I agree, I was reminding myself to let go as best I could, but I am still very green at this, and at the end things happened so fast that I got swept up as happens often. Element - thank you for your kind words I agree, it felt purifying. Things I had shoved out of the way were coming to a point where I understood them a little more, and then the strong feeling to not want to visit these harms on other beings felt like it was "on the right track" too. srivijaya - A clear demonstration of the pain inherent in "self" and "other". We take 'refuge' in self and the life-story it carries around with it. When we learn to let that go, there can be space and understanding. Yeah grasping, mud-wrestling, wrangling in the mind over experience....I am reading a book by Chogyam Trungpa where he calls this "being a nuisance to oneself." His description makes me laugh and I so identify with it Karma Yeshe, Wow I really like that transcription! Thank you....yeah I have been trying to give it up...bit by bit I did have some fish, but I had very little meat the past few days and was happy about it Kaarine Alejandra, Hey when talking about this I tend to stick to the personal, like that meditation session I had a few days ago; though if you think it is okay to broaden it then by all means (my initial reasoning for making that specification in the OP was that the discussion of meat-eating in a more general sense often turns unskillful incredibly quickly.) I agree with a lot of what you say and am trying to find the courage to do the right thing, I'm finding that if I motivate myself with shame - "I am shameful to eat this!" then I do not get as far as when I appeal to my natural courage, and say, "It takes courage to do the right thing (and I will do it.)" Thanks for your feedback on it, your words remind me of a book I have, the Food Revolution, that I have been meaning to read.
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