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Hi Paul,

I hope this doesn't offend you in any way, but can I ask if you were taking recreational drugs/hallucinogenics when having the experiences you've mentioned?

with kind wishes,

A-D

Hi A-D ,ur question does not offend me, nor it does not embarass me to say that i

used LSD in the void experience . 3 normal doses of a good quality LSD were initially

ingested + after a while when the 'medicine' is ready to be passed from the body, as

urine, this is then drunk , so that the larger portion of the drug/medicine that is

expelled from the body as a 'poison', is then reingested but with the cellular imprint

of the practitioner , upon it. Other methods may be observed at this 'point' but i

will not say. There is a prior period of asana preparation + of internal 'cleansing'

etc b4 the practitioner is ready to ingest the medicine. If the practitioner shows any

signs of physical or emotional distress b4 it is administered , it will not be given.

These are the conditions of an esoteric form of yoga which i am not at liberty to talk

futher of. In fact it would be a good idea to wipe this post (as u see fit) because i

would in no way wish 4 this to be missunderstood or misused by anyone who might read

it. This form of 'yoga' produces most powerful effects in the practitioner + i

have known of those who have suffered greatly because of it.I would not normally speak

of it nor advise anyone to attempt this sort of thing. But it is important that u know

of this + in some way, how i used these drugs, this medicine.
The wakeing/dreaming consciousness which i see as the precurser to the void

experience was done thru dogged determination (no drugs) over a 3 month period until

the self was gradually fused with the inner self or dreaming self, but with this other

esoteric yoga the doors of the self + perception are burst open until the deeper inner

experiences can be easily reached + then used by the practitioner to probe even

deeper. But many fall foul of this 'bursting' thru + get lost along the way. It can

destroy or completely mess up an ego. i have 'seen' + experienced 'things' via this

method that it may not have been proper or good 4 me to have come into but that was 4

me to deal with + luckily i escaped relatively unscathed . There are so called

'demonic' regions into which one may inadvertantly 'fall' etc, etc.
I have not used this method in many years nor do i intend to, there are other ways.
Be that as it may, my final summation is that the experience gained thru such

methods in no way differs from the quality of experience gained by other safer

methods. It is only used as a device to cut thru the 'outer' layers of the self.The

experience i believe remains the same tho it has with it , the seeds of forgetfulness

+ as are most meditative experiences, confined to the experience itself. It is a most

dangerous but legitimate method of gaining knowledge of the inner self. i was lucky +

well guided. these were most certainly not drugs used in a recreational manner.
repectfully, paul