[IrrettelatWet]

Hi srivijaya, I agree + somewhat disagree with ur post in that i was a fairly good

intermediate in hatha yoga, i'd also done some quite protracted 'meditations' ie my 3

month stint to gain dual wakeing/dreaming consciousness + come into various other

altered states + OOB experiences , some with some without drugs so i had a reasonable

knowledge + experience of these 'things'. The void experience came after some other

v definate expansions of consciousness or was a part of a larger experience . So i

think u are right to say that i dont know exactly how i got there, like a passenger

but i would say that there are many signposts along the way that i would recognise as

i was quite an observant 'passenger' + could remember much of the way. respectfully,

paul