[jesyflowers]

Hi Kris,
i just tried the links again + they came up as you described,so its quite odd that i should have got 'lost in samasara' as this is not what u described, I took this lost in samsara quite literally to be what u meant me to read (did you?), + intuited its translation (of the v little i know of these things) to be that you + others perhaps might think that i am in some way obsessed with these experiences id had. I would be inclined to agree if i was in your shoes, as you dont know me + i come in cavalier like with my intense questioning + statements with little or no real understanding of Buddhism. So i would not be surprised if anyone would think that i am lost in some sort of samsara, one of those funny little things.

Anyway all the links are working fine now, thanks .

It still amazes me that sunyata can be achieved through breathing. It is something of note for me because it is something i absolutely failed to recognise in any of my experiences. I was aware that my breathing would become 'quietened' as my mind became more calm through my dissociation of any external influences,whilst i kept my attention on inner calm, inner qiet, inner tranquility, not any thing, or goal or up or down or light or dark, absolutely nothing else but inner quiet,calm + tranquility. I found that my breathing would breathe itself + that i would become totally unaware of the breathing process itself after some time.
Perhaps my dissociation can be likened to a non grasping? i read somewhere on a quick jaunt though the first site u gave me when i went looking for lost in samsara. As there seemed to me to be a similarity between this not grasping + my dissociation from. Maybe not but i get the impression that like the description of the Jhanas that struck a chord in me, there will be a few other desciptions of Buddhist understanding that i will relate to but in my own wierd + wonderful way. i think that we may sort of speak the same language but in a different tongue, mine of course being the more naive, but there you go.

Anyway i should get on with reading these Suttas you have pointed out to me + get back to you all sometime soon.
regards + best wishes, paul