Ha-ha Murch... it is not a matter of where we found a certain quote when it comes to statements about something that is true in the sense of it. Also we both do not indulge in issuing any decrees about what is true or what is not. There just is truth in : I have been very uneasy about the concepts of "truth"and "perfection" a never ending state of flux. ...and in "I am sure enough to be unsure" We also do not refer to the four Nobel truths here...at least I think so...maybe I am wrong. What we seem to investigate here is the working faculty of truth about experiences and feelings in daily live of the individual. This is a creative way of deepening and alerting our minds towards the 4 Nobel Truths rather than claiming that we know what is true. I have an other quote in my mind that may be helpful.... which I have never forgotten ever since I came across of it some years ago. It is still helpful to me and my not be so to others. It is not from any ancient texts or something like that...and I can not find this quote in Internet...I just now had a look in the internet but could not find it. Its hidden amongst hundreds of books from different authors in our family library) "The Truth is like the mighty Sagarmatha (The Mount Everest). One can not take a picture or drawing of it and show it around....claiming: "Look...this is Sagarmatha!" For it is not the true original. Those who want to seek the truth and feel the power of it have to climb up there to see it for themselves."