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**intorkercet** · 07-31-2011, 12:44 PM

I can think of two types...

One type is like this...
http://tipitaka.wikia.com/wiki/Brahmajala_Sutta
"Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins remain addicted to disputation such as:

‘You don't understand this doctrine and discipline - I do!’
"How could you understand this Doctrine and Discipline?"
‘Your way is all wrong - mine is right!’
"I am consistent - you aren't!"
‘You said last what you should have said first, and you said first what you should have said last!’
"What you took so long to think up has been refuted!"
‘Your argument has been overthrown, you're defeated!’
"Go on, save your doctrine - get out of that if you can!"

The ascetic Gotama refrains from such disputation." Another type...knowing your fundamentals well (applies too to anything else in life, in one's career, relationship et al)
http://www.vipassana.com/canon/samyutta/sn20-7.php
"Thus you should train yourselves:
'We will listen when discourses that are words of the Tathagata -- deep, deep in their meaning, transcendent, connected with emptiness -- are being recited. We will lend ear, will set our hearts on knowing them, will regard these teachings as worth grasping & mastering.'
That's how you should train yourselves."

07-31-2011, 12:44 PM	#2
intorkercet Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	I can think of two types... One type is like this... http://tipitaka.wikia.com/wiki/Brahmajala_Sutta "Whereas some ascetics and Brahmins remain addicted to disputation such as: ‘You don't understand this doctrine and discipline - I do!’ "How could you understand this Doctrine and Discipline?" ‘Your way is all wrong - mine is right!’ "I am consistent - you aren't!" ‘You said last what you should have said first, and you said first what you should have said last!’ "What you took so long to think up has been refuted!" ‘Your argument has been overthrown, you're defeated!’ "Go on, save your doctrine - get out of that if you can!" The ascetic Gotama refrains from such disputation." Another type...knowing your fundamentals well (applies too to anything else in life, in one's career, relationship et al) http://www.vipassana.com/canon/samyutta/sn20-7.php "Thus you should train yourselves: 'We will listen when discourses that are words of the Tathagata -- deep, deep in their meaning, transcendent, connected with emptiness -- are being recited. We will lend ear, will set our hearts on knowing them, will regard these teachings as worth grasping & mastering.' That's how you should train yourselves."
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