Yup, sums up me too. I'm very reluctant to wear labels. In my opinion, any worthwhile philosophy should facilitate the evolution and development of my moral compass and personal beliefs, rather than become a substitute for them. That's probably the thing that's scared me away from joining anyone's 'club'. The concepts and philosophies behind Buddhism make an awful lot of sense to me, but I've always wondered whether I can actually regard myself as Buddhist if I've never been inclined to take refuge with any particular tradition. Pete