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**soryalomop** · 05-25-2010, 03:48 AM

If one takes dependent origination as an "axiom", then nothing has any intrinsic existence, including "self".

Yes, to axiom - wouldn't say yes to conclusion. Dependent origination is what is observed, not an esoteric theory. It doesn't function to comment on the existence (or otherwise) of anything including 'self'.

Dependent origination is a process, no more. It makes no sense to ask what the 'I' is, as there are millions of opinions about it but it does make sense to investigate, in meditation, what the 'I' is.

Really look for it, not in a kind of formulaic (I won't find it anyway) manner but in a genuine way. There is something there, that's for sure but you will have to see it for yourself.

05-25-2010, 03:48 AM	#17
soryalomop Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 617 Senior Member	If one takes dependent origination as an "axiom", then nothing has any intrinsic existence, including "self". Yes, to axiom - wouldn't say yes to conclusion. Dependent origination is what is observed, not an esoteric theory. It doesn't function to comment on the existence (or otherwise) of anything including 'self'. Dependent origination is a process, no more. It makes no sense to ask what the 'I' is, as there are millions of opinions about it but it does make sense to investigate, in meditation, what the 'I' is. Really look for it, not in a kind of formulaic (I won't find it anyway) manner but in a genuine way. There is something there, that's for sure but you will have to see it for yourself.
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