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**Vjwkvkoy** · 12-18-2010, 08:27 AM

Once again, this thread was informational not really about taking a stand one way or the other. I don't know who still worships nordic deities (fill me in on that) but this Thor is a comic book character.

There's a number of pagan revivals since the 70's, there have been some hints even that pre-Christian beliefs flourished despite rampant spread of the Christian religion in Medieval Europe.

I thought Heimdall created ALL social classes and did so by having children from different types of women. Saying that these classes were just German seems to be after the fact spin of a modern world that is much larger than what Nordics thought about back then. The Rigsthula could be interpreted that Heimdall created all social classes in the world, but during the time that these poems were created (not necessarily recorded as these were recorded long after the initial verbal versions came to be) I doubt there was much thought given to the construction of other peoples outside of the "folk" so it would only be natural that the Rigsthula represents the social structure of the tribes who worshiped the deity Heimdall. If one was to read the poem one would see the context is of a Germanic orientation not an all inclusive one, after all I doubt all the nobles of the world were instructed in the esoteric purposes of Germanic runes, things of this nature mentioned in the Rigsthula are purely Germanic (well there are in some instances Celtic parallels and other parallels with other European lore, the general gist though is Germanic), even the geography mentioned in the poem is reminiscent of a Northern European landscape.

As for the rest of the Eddic poems the geography ranges from the Rhine, to Francia, Burgundy, Mirkwood/the Black Forest in Baden-Wurttemberg, Britain, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, and Greenland. That's the extent of it, nothing really to suggest an all inclusive lore.

And I have to say, I don't know anything about African deities past the syncretism with Christianity so you might want to explain these African deities. Remember, I'm African American, not African. I wasn't suggesting anything about your own religious orientation or origins, my point was I'm sure the African tribes have their own native lore and misrepresenting them would not sit well among the folks who believe in such things, my point was it's ludicrous to misrepresent religious/folkloric figures. Heck, I'm even against having white men used in portraying Jesus.

12-18-2010, 08:27 AM	#36
Vjwkvkoy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	Once again, this thread was informational not really about taking a stand one way or the other. I don't know who still worships nordic deities (fill me in on that) but this Thor is a comic book character. There's a number of pagan revivals since the 70's, there have been some hints even that pre-Christian beliefs flourished despite rampant spread of the Christian religion in Medieval Europe. I thought Heimdall created ALL social classes and did so by having children from different types of women. Saying that these classes were just German seems to be after the fact spin of a modern world that is much larger than what Nordics thought about back then. The Rigsthula could be interpreted that Heimdall created all social classes in the world, but during the time that these poems were created (not necessarily recorded as these were recorded long after the initial verbal versions came to be) I doubt there was much thought given to the construction of other peoples outside of the "folk" so it would only be natural that the Rigsthula represents the social structure of the tribes who worshiped the deity Heimdall. If one was to read the poem one would see the context is of a Germanic orientation not an all inclusive one, after all I doubt all the nobles of the world were instructed in the esoteric purposes of Germanic runes, things of this nature mentioned in the Rigsthula are purely Germanic (well there are in some instances Celtic parallels and other parallels with other European lore, the general gist though is Germanic), even the geography mentioned in the poem is reminiscent of a Northern European landscape. As for the rest of the Eddic poems the geography ranges from the Rhine, to Francia, Burgundy, Mirkwood/the Black Forest in Baden-Wurttemberg, Britain, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, and Greenland. That's the extent of it, nothing really to suggest an all inclusive lore. And I have to say, I don't know anything about African deities past the syncretism with Christianity so you might want to explain these African deities. Remember, I'm African American, not African. I wasn't suggesting anything about your own religious orientation or origins, my point was I'm sure the African tribes have their own native lore and misrepresenting them would not sit well among the folks who believe in such things, my point was it's ludicrous to misrepresent religious/folkloric figures. Heck, I'm even against having white men used in portraying Jesus.
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