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**CAxrrAYN** · 05-29-2012, 12:14 AM

He never mentioned 'black' but I think the context suggests that its about blacks. Another thing is, I dont know situation in Ukraine, but in Poland, even though there are lots of idiots on stadiums and many of them are typical idiotic kind of racist (primitive one) but its not different than elsewhere and first of all, Adolf Hitler has no admirers in Poland, even among them, it is a lie, maybe some single cases of idiots, but even nationalists in Poland (racists) rarely or never use swastika or sieg heil greeting. Its just bullshit. They rather sometimes go to cemeteries of victims of Nazi in 2War to show public they are 'good guys'.

then you find this comments on Daily Mail

Kwestos: why is it "racist" to point out obvious problems in a country ?

he never said "this is something you see everywhere in Ukraine", he simply issued a warning to the fans who want to travel to Ukraine, especially to the negro fans.

I dont believe he said that every Ukranian is a nazi and that every negro will get beaten.

I asked whether it is racist according to media definitions, not your own. According to you barely anything is racist, but its another thing, I would appreciate you to consider this point.

You dont have to say anything specifically. Plus, he is talking about coming back in a coffin. Could he list examples of football fans or any tourists coming back in a coffin in such circumstances?

In my opinion he is slightly racist, more patronising, arrogant and at least blunt, but according to media definitions, it is racism, I believe.

05-29-2012, 12:14 AM	#8
CAxrrAYN Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	He never mentioned 'black' but I think the context suggests that its about blacks. Another thing is, I dont know situation in Ukraine, but in Poland, even though there are lots of idiots on stadiums and many of them are typical idiotic kind of racist (primitive one) but its not different than elsewhere and first of all, Adolf Hitler has no admirers in Poland, even among them, it is a lie, maybe some single cases of idiots, but even nationalists in Poland (racists) rarely or never use swastika or sieg heil greeting. Its just bullshit. They rather sometimes go to cemeteries of victims of Nazi in 2War to show public they are 'good guys'. then you find this comments on Daily Mail Kwestos: why is it "racist" to point out obvious problems in a country ? he never said "this is something you see everywhere in Ukraine", he simply issued a warning to the fans who want to travel to Ukraine, especially to the negro fans. I dont believe he said that every Ukranian is a nazi and that every negro will get beaten. I asked whether it is racist according to media definitions, not your own. According to you barely anything is racist, but its another thing, I would appreciate you to consider this point. You dont have to say anything specifically. Plus, he is talking about coming back in a coffin. Could he list examples of football fans or any tourists coming back in a coffin in such circumstances? In my opinion he is slightly racist, more patronising, arrogant and at least blunt, but according to media definitions, it is racism, I believe.
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