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**ssiikmuz** · 05-19-2012, 08:02 AM

If they manage to have comparatively more children in their current context - namely, modern states with highly developed social security systems -, and those children manage to reach reproductive age, then these 'dumb people' are clearly superior in the purely evolutionary sense of the word. That's all that matters. Everything else is irrelevant moralism.

You can use the term 'moralism.' I might use 'ethics' and 'integrity,' but when those notions are removed from a society civilization will deteriorate to nothing. Sure, it is a challenge to deal with notions like morals and ethics, and people, often get them wrong. But removing such ideas is really the easy way out. More precisely, to pretend that they have been removed is the easy way out. Every person, whether religious, secularist, or anarchist, has a moral compass based upon their beliefs. Every crucial decision we make is based on a value system, our value system. To pretend this concept has been removed is naive. There will always be the Mengeles of the world. The Mengeles will find their way into power, and impose their belief system on others, especially when others are operating from the perspective that there is no moral system in play. It is a one sided fight when only one combatant has a weapon.

05-19-2012, 08:02 AM	#8
ssiikmuz Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 370 Senior Member	If they manage to have comparatively more children in their current context - namely, modern states with highly developed social security systems -, and those children manage to reach reproductive age, then these 'dumb people' are clearly superior in the purely evolutionary sense of the word. That's all that matters. Everything else is irrelevant moralism. You can use the term 'moralism.' I might use 'ethics' and 'integrity,' but when those notions are removed from a society civilization will deteriorate to nothing. Sure, it is a challenge to deal with notions like morals and ethics, and people, often get them wrong. But removing such ideas is really the easy way out. More precisely, to pretend that they have been removed is the easy way out. Every person, whether religious, secularist, or anarchist, has a moral compass based upon their beliefs. Every crucial decision we make is based on a value system, our value system. To pretend this concept has been removed is naive. There will always be the Mengeles of the world. The Mengeles will find their way into power, and impose their belief system on others, especially when others are operating from the perspective that there is no moral system in play. It is a one sided fight when only one combatant has a weapon.
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