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**13spebampiliece** · 03-15-2012, 04:29 AM

If not then why not unite Bantus into one giant "Zaire" type country stretching from East to West Africa. And then you can have Somalis united into one country as well including Borana and maybe Muslim Oromo too. Do you think African countries will solve their problems within next 50 years? They'll still have election crashes and border conflicts, also Northern Kenya isn't properly stablized. They can't police that far up! Thats why there is war up there, a minor war of course, but nonetheless it is a war.

Africa's problems are complex and solutions will have to be contextdependent. I wouldn't want to rule out the possibility of selfdetermination for separatistminded ethnicities. If certain conditions are fulfilled it may even be beneficial for all parties involved. But i don't think this will be the case very often. Rather the opposite, as i mentioned the issue of determining new borders and what to do with ethnically mixed areas will in most cases lead to prolonged violence distracting from focus on development. Even after violence has ended there's a high risk of lasting mutual distrust which will hinder regional cooperation which is absolutely vital in present era of globalization and especially for landlocked territories.

In case of kenya, (which seems to be your principal concern

) it's true they still have a long way to go before ethnic harmony is realized. The situation on their somalian borders is also worrying. It's unfortunate because they do have a widespread national language (swahili) and economic growth was pretty good for the region (compare with tanzania). But i don't think things will get any better if you divide the country into separate bantustans (

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03-15-2012, 04:29 AM	#19
13spebampiliece Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 522 Senior Member	If not then why not unite Bantus into one giant "Zaire" type country stretching from East to West Africa. And then you can have Somalis united into one country as well including Borana and maybe Muslim Oromo too. Do you think African countries will solve their problems within next 50 years? They'll still have election crashes and border conflicts, also Northern Kenya isn't properly stablized. They can't police that far up! Thats why there is war up there, a minor war of course, but nonetheless it is a war. Africa's problems are complex and solutions will have to be contextdependent. I wouldn't want to rule out the possibility of selfdetermination for separatistminded ethnicities. If certain conditions are fulfilled it may even be beneficial for all parties involved. But i don't think this will be the case very often. Rather the opposite, as i mentioned the issue of determining new borders and what to do with ethnically mixed areas will in most cases lead to prolonged violence distracting from focus on development. Even after violence has ended there's a high risk of lasting mutual distrust which will hinder regional cooperation which is absolutely vital in present era of globalization and especially for landlocked territories. In case of kenya, (which seems to be your principal concern ) it's true they still have a long way to go before ethnic harmony is realized. The situation on their somalian borders is also worrying. It's unfortunate because they do have a widespread national language (swahili) and economic growth was pretty good for the region (compare with tanzania). But i don't think things will get any better if you divide the country into separate bantustans ()
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