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**UrUROFlS** · 10-09-2011, 06:55 AM

Pretty much every European democracy would be classified as a democratic socialist state. Even the United States to a lesser degree. All have a good degree of capitalism in them.

"Pretty much everybody"? Who died and made you the grand master of public opinion?

in the last several years, I've seen people argue that we can't have universal healthcare, the EPA, the FDA and the Federal Reserve becayse these are all "Socialist" institutions, so there are a lot of people out there who believe that ANY government control or oversight is "Socialism".

If you think central planning of an economy from top to bottom (classic socialism) works, you haven't been paying attention. Never said that it did. But it's a slightly more effective shell game than derugulating everything.

I also feel the need to point out that the concept of "Socialism" existed before Marx, and while I know you anti-Communists love dragging his corpse around, his definition of the word is not the be all and end all of every arguement.

10-09-2011, 06:55 AM	#11
UrUROFlS Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 466 Senior Member	Pretty much every European democracy would be classified as a democratic socialist state. Even the United States to a lesser degree. All have a good degree of capitalism in them. "Pretty much everybody"? Who died and made you the grand master of public opinion? in the last several years, I've seen people argue that we can't have universal healthcare, the EPA, the FDA and the Federal Reserve becayse these are all "Socialist" institutions, so there are a lot of people out there who believe that ANY government control or oversight is "Socialism". If you think central planning of an economy from top to bottom (classic socialism) works, you haven't been paying attention. Never said that it did. But it's a slightly more effective shell game than derugulating everything. I also feel the need to point out that the concept of "Socialism" existed before Marx, and while I know you anti-Communists love dragging his corpse around, his definition of the word is not the be all and end all of every arguement.
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