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**Bgfbukpf** · 06-17-2012, 07:32 PM

I was not intentionally spreading mis-understandings, however my brother used to be a strong salafi, now he seems to have left the practice of deen. Anyway he and his friends used to pick up Hadith books translated in English and try to derive or find proof of a Fiqh issue.

The traditional non salafi ulama believe that knowledge is a light, it is transmitted from heart to heart, from teacher to student. It is not just reading hundreds of books and logically analysing them, which is what Madina University promotes.

salafis dont say you dont need scholars akhi, dont spread these sorts of misconceptions, the less we understand each other, the harder any sort of reconcilation is

what the salafis say, is that experts are not ma'suum.

In the west, doctors have told women their unborn children were dead, she questioned this and then it came out alive. The doctors had offered medication to remove it that wud have killed it. Doctors misdiagnose cancer and all sorts.

Experts can make costly mistakes in all fields including religion.

We still need ulema and should love and respect them, but dont believe they are ma'suum or all knowing or infallible.

To highlight a point, your deobandi scholars follow oppinions that imam abu hanifa rh never held. Does this mean they are more knowledgable? Or that imam abu hanifa rh had some mistakes? Or do u wish to follow imam abu hanifa rh 100% in which case, i can quote you many things which you do that goes against his oppinions.

06-17-2012, 07:32 PM	#13
Bgfbukpf Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 380 Senior Member	I was not intentionally spreading mis-understandings, however my brother used to be a strong salafi, now he seems to have left the practice of deen. Anyway he and his friends used to pick up Hadith books translated in English and try to derive or find proof of a Fiqh issue. The traditional non salafi ulama believe that knowledge is a light, it is transmitted from heart to heart, from teacher to student. It is not just reading hundreds of books and logically analysing them, which is what Madina University promotes. salafis dont say you dont need scholars akhi, dont spread these sorts of misconceptions, the less we understand each other, the harder any sort of reconcilation is what the salafis say, is that experts are not ma'suum. In the west, doctors have told women their unborn children were dead, she questioned this and then it came out alive. The doctors had offered medication to remove it that wud have killed it. Doctors misdiagnose cancer and all sorts. Experts can make costly mistakes in all fields including religion. We still need ulema and should love and respect them, but dont believe they are ma'suum or all knowing or infallible. To highlight a point, your deobandi scholars follow oppinions that imam abu hanifa rh never held. Does this mean they are more knowledgable? Or that imam abu hanifa rh had some mistakes? Or do u wish to follow imam abu hanifa rh 100% in which case, i can quote you many things which you do that goes against his oppinions.
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