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**Sdinozes** · 07-05-2012, 04:39 PM

Mobil Exxon is just a business. It happens to be one of the most efficient, most effectively run businesses in the world. We can learn from its administrative skills.

What's evil is that Taghut is freely granted power over Muslim affairs. Natural energy resources belong to the public, the Muslim Ummah. They should be administered and governed and managed for the Muslim Ummah.

Instead, Muslims greedily embrace nationalism- Afghani nationalism in this case. They hungrily desire the benefits of Afghani nationalism: exclusive access to oil, gas & mineral resources. And they are willing to conspire with Mobil Exxon to get at them. And they greedily, hungrily, like starving dogs whining and nipping at each other, they implement free market liberalized capitalism which grants greater powers to private companies and deprioritize the rights of Muslim people.

America is not only seeking oil. America is seeking a multitude of objectives, including sustained regional supremacy in Central Asia. After investing 100s of billions in the Karzai regime and rebuuilding of Afghanistan, they are seeking a payout.

No way that America is going to CHOOSE to abandon Afghanistan. As long there are in powere those who welcome it, it will remain.

Rather, the Karzai and AFghan nationalist capitulation to America's regional interests will certainly overtake Karzai and whomever has submitted to it. Like so many before. It is like blindly dancing on the edge of a cliff to a seductive tune, thinking your master will enjoy your dance and keep you from falling. No. Your master is the Taghut and has pushed off so many before you when he tires, or the tune ends.

Two very good points:

1 From a purely functionality and system based perspective, these companies and the west in general has a lot of good traits and ideas, and definitely we can take them inshAllah although there is some terribly inefficient things too taht we should scrap in favour of otehr systems and policies and of course, anywhere taht islam is concerned we shoudl try our best to bring the systems in line with islam as much as is humanly possible inshAllah

2 From a moral perspective, these companies do a lot of wrong things, its very clear taht americans have their eye on the oil and precious metals worths trillions in afghanistan, and this rightfully belongs to the ummah, not some corrupt government who will leave his nation totally underdeveloped, contribute nothing to islam, try to kufrise his people, and have no intention to serve Islam or work with other muslim nations. But I dont believe this is americas prime objective in afghanistan, the key issue was the prevention of the establishment of a khilafaah in central asia. Its also worth noting that they didnt want the removal of a major corruption to prevail:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/wo...um-market.html

This article is cached from 2001. Makes me laugh when one of the objectives is so called opium as now opium is booming again thanks to NATO

I do think the Taliban need to modernise aswell though in some ways so the suggested solution of a unity government will be good inshAllah but the mineral wealth is the ummahs, not america or chinas, and they need to ensure that all the wealth fall into the correct hands inshAllah and develops the nation into a powerful nation that cooperates with otehr muslim lands. And if they have elections, brotehrs shoudl support an islamic party, maybe jamaat e islami or something?

07-05-2012, 04:39 PM	#16
Sdinozes Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	Mobil Exxon is just a business. It happens to be one of the most efficient, most effectively run businesses in the world. We can learn from its administrative skills. What's evil is that Taghut is freely granted power over Muslim affairs. Natural energy resources belong to the public, the Muslim Ummah. They should be administered and governed and managed for the Muslim Ummah. Instead, Muslims greedily embrace nationalism- Afghani nationalism in this case. They hungrily desire the benefits of Afghani nationalism: exclusive access to oil, gas & mineral resources. And they are willing to conspire with Mobil Exxon to get at them. And they greedily, hungrily, like starving dogs whining and nipping at each other, they implement free market liberalized capitalism which grants greater powers to private companies and deprioritize the rights of Muslim people. America is not only seeking oil. America is seeking a multitude of objectives, including sustained regional supremacy in Central Asia. After investing 100s of billions in the Karzai regime and rebuuilding of Afghanistan, they are seeking a payout. No way that America is going to CHOOSE to abandon Afghanistan. As long there are in powere those who welcome it, it will remain. Rather, the Karzai and AFghan nationalist capitulation to America's regional interests will certainly overtake Karzai and whomever has submitted to it. Like so many before. It is like blindly dancing on the edge of a cliff to a seductive tune, thinking your master will enjoy your dance and keep you from falling. No. Your master is the Taghut and has pushed off so many before you when he tires, or the tune ends. Two very good points: 1 From a purely functionality and system based perspective, these companies and the west in general has a lot of good traits and ideas, and definitely we can take them inshAllah although there is some terribly inefficient things too taht we should scrap in favour of otehr systems and policies and of course, anywhere taht islam is concerned we shoudl try our best to bring the systems in line with islam as much as is humanly possible inshAllah 2 From a moral perspective, these companies do a lot of wrong things, its very clear taht americans have their eye on the oil and precious metals worths trillions in afghanistan, and this rightfully belongs to the ummah, not some corrupt government who will leave his nation totally underdeveloped, contribute nothing to islam, try to kufrise his people, and have no intention to serve Islam or work with other muslim nations. But I dont believe this is americas prime objective in afghanistan, the key issue was the prevention of the establishment of a khilafaah in central asia. Its also worth noting that they didnt want the removal of a major corruption to prevail: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/13/wo...um-market.html This article is cached from 2001. Makes me laugh when one of the objectives is so called opium as now opium is booming again thanks to NATO I do think the Taliban need to modernise aswell though in some ways so the suggested solution of a unity government will be good inshAllah but the mineral wealth is the ummahs, not america or chinas, and they need to ensure that all the wealth fall into the correct hands inshAllah and develops the nation into a powerful nation that cooperates with otehr muslim lands. And if they have elections, brotehrs shoudl support an islamic party, maybe jamaat e islami or something?
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