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**RSAccountssy** · 07-16-2012, 11:49 PM

No Saudi and the Ikhwan helped by the British helped to splinter darul Islam and they killed Muslims by saying they are kafirun. The Arab Revolt was led by Hashimis, not Saudis. The Saudis were not able to stop the Turkish onslaught on their lands. Ironically, there's a nice quote by Ibrahim Pasha in which he laments that their armies are all composed of drunkards who do not pray and the Saudi armies are filled with prayerful ascetics.

Anyway, the Ottomans wrote their own fate by sticking themselves into Europe and wanting to be just like the Euros, taking giant loans from European countries, abolishing Shari'ah laws and replacing them with fines... letting evil tariqas like the Bektashis flourish within the Janissaries... what else does anyone need to note that they were not exactly an example to emulate?

07-16-2012, 11:49 PM	#40
RSAccountssy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 363 Senior Member	No Saudi and the Ikhwan helped by the British helped to splinter darul Islam and they killed Muslims by saying they are kafirun. The Arab Revolt was led by Hashimis, not Saudis. The Saudis were not able to stop the Turkish onslaught on their lands. Ironically, there's a nice quote by Ibrahim Pasha in which he laments that their armies are all composed of drunkards who do not pray and the Saudi armies are filled with prayerful ascetics. Anyway, the Ottomans wrote their own fate by sticking themselves into Europe and wanting to be just like the Euros, taking giant loans from European countries, abolishing Shari'ah laws and replacing them with fines... letting evil tariqas like the Bektashis flourish within the Janissaries... what else does anyone need to note that they were not exactly an example to emulate?
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