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**malishka1025** · 08-14-2012, 12:45 AM

I read a quote by Shaykh Abdal Qadir Jilani in which he said by the ruling of the shariah I am a wrongdoer but by the haqiqa I am correct. Which means for example, shariah may require me to grow a beard, but because I have pride and self admiration it might be acceptable by haqiqa if I trim my beard so that the opinions of others do not bother me and I lower my own self. By divesting myself I am actually becoming more beloved to Allah. This is temporary of course I can grow my beard again once I have been cured.

Many things are attributed to Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani (ra) that are made up, as for what you mention, you can be sure that he never told anyone to do anything haram - there are different opinions over the beard and the word you use is trim.

The Sufis have used a technique to cure the love of admiration of others which becomes a source of vanity (one of the things that Tasawwuf is there to remove).

One great Sufi had gone away from his home town and over the years had gained a great reputation as an ascetic and a Wali.

It was Ramadan and he went home to see his mother.

The people of the village all came out to see him and welcome him home with honour like a hero.

knowing the danger of accepting such as welcome he took out a piece of dry bread from his bag, popped it into his mouth and began to eat it.

They people of the village all got angry shouted at him, accused him of being a fraud and went home.

Left alone he went to see his mother.

What the people had forgotten, as he knew they would, was this although it was Ramadan

- he was a traveler on a long journey - the fast was not obligatory upon him.

Thus he had sought their blame, but had done nothing haram.

I suspect that whatever you read from Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani (ra) refers to things like this.

08-14-2012, 12:45 AM	#21
malishka1025 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	I read a quote by Shaykh Abdal Qadir Jilani in which he said by the ruling of the shariah I am a wrongdoer but by the haqiqa I am correct. Which means for example, shariah may require me to grow a beard, but because I have pride and self admiration it might be acceptable by haqiqa if I trim my beard so that the opinions of others do not bother me and I lower my own self. By divesting myself I am actually becoming more beloved to Allah. This is temporary of course I can grow my beard again once I have been cured. Many things are attributed to Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani (ra) that are made up, as for what you mention, you can be sure that he never told anyone to do anything haram - there are different opinions over the beard and the word you use is trim. The Sufis have used a technique to cure the love of admiration of others which becomes a source of vanity (one of the things that Tasawwuf is there to remove). One great Sufi had gone away from his home town and over the years had gained a great reputation as an ascetic and a Wali. It was Ramadan and he went home to see his mother. The people of the village all came out to see him and welcome him home with honour like a hero. knowing the danger of accepting such as welcome he took out a piece of dry bread from his bag, popped it into his mouth and began to eat it. They people of the village all got angry shouted at him, accused him of being a fraud and went home. Left alone he went to see his mother. What the people had forgotten, as he knew they would, was this although it was Ramadan - he was a traveler on a long journey - the fast was not obligatory upon him. Thus he had sought their blame, but had done nothing haram. I suspect that whatever you read from Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani (ra) refers to things like this.
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