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**Catieliecutty** · 08-15-2012, 01:39 PM

i am sharing this piece particularly for the benefit of those striving to repel and answer liberalism, modernism and secularism. it should settle the debate(?) once and for all about who has 'real' Islam and whether Islam right now is a distorted image of the original message brought about by The prophet .

(taken from here)

"Let us settle this once and for all. If the liberals accuse ‘mullahs’ of distortion do the liberals have the real Islam of 1400 years ago? The Angle Jibraeel (AS) decided to convey real Islam to the liberals of Pakistan after the Ummah had been misguided for 1400 years? The truth is they either do not know, or reject, how Islam reached us through scholars and chain of narrators that preserved the teachings [1]. One simply cannot claim to know Islam by self-study or by learning from those who did self-study. Even the least practicing Muslim knows through Muslim culture that teachings of Islam are going to be preserved by Allah (SWT) till the Day of Judgement. This necessitates that there be a mechanism that continuously filters real Islam from fabrications and reprehensible innovations. This also necessitates that never in 1400 years the true message of Islam be lost [2]. This further asks us to investigate how Allah chose for Islam to be propagated from one generation to the next; and it was definitely not via self-study.

Therefore any claims by liberals of distortion of faith are uneducated and incorrect to say the least. But who among the liberals has ever picked up a book on Fiqh to read let alone go to a seminary or islamic center to learn Islam? Those who have learnt something yet chose to stay liberal or combine liberalism with Islam are another category. They are all misguided as we have just demonstrated. For this reason my request to people is to stop paying attention to what they are saying about Islam."

references:
[1]http://2reachout.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/answering-secularism-i-the-respect-of-muslim-scholars-and-the-importance-of-the-chain-of-narrators/
[2]Asr e Hazir mein Deen ki Tafheem or Tashreeh – Syed Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi (page 44).

better to say classical muslim or traditional Muslim than fundamentalist as fundamentalist is often used for people who are definitely not on the religion as it was for 1400 years.

08-15-2012, 01:39 PM	#4
Catieliecutty Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	i am sharing this piece particularly for the benefit of those striving to repel and answer liberalism, modernism and secularism. it should settle the debate(?) once and for all about who has 'real' Islam and whether Islam right now is a distorted image of the original message brought about by The prophet . (taken from here) "Let us settle this once and for all. If the liberals accuse ‘mullahs’ of distortion do the liberals have the real Islam of 1400 years ago? The Angle Jibraeel (AS) decided to convey real Islam to the liberals of Pakistan after the Ummah had been misguided for 1400 years? The truth is they either do not know, or reject, how Islam reached us through scholars and chain of narrators that preserved the teachings [1]. One simply cannot claim to know Islam by self-study or by learning from those who did self-study. Even the least practicing Muslim knows through Muslim culture that teachings of Islam are going to be preserved by Allah (SWT) till the Day of Judgement. This necessitates that there be a mechanism that continuously filters real Islam from fabrications and reprehensible innovations. This also necessitates that never in 1400 years the true message of Islam be lost [2]. This further asks us to investigate how Allah chose for Islam to be propagated from one generation to the next; and it was definitely not via self-study. Therefore any claims by liberals of distortion of faith are uneducated and incorrect to say the least. But who among the liberals has ever picked up a book on Fiqh to read let alone go to a seminary or islamic center to learn Islam? Those who have learnt something yet chose to stay liberal or combine liberalism with Islam are another category. They are all misguided as we have just demonstrated. For this reason my request to people is to stop paying attention to what they are saying about Islam." references: [1]http://2reachout.wordpress.com/2012/03/19/answering-secularism-i-the-respect-of-muslim-scholars-and-the-importance-of-the-chain-of-narrators/ [2]Asr e Hazir mein Deen ki Tafheem or Tashreeh – Syed Abul Hasan Ali Nadwi (page 44). better to say classical muslim or traditional Muslim than fundamentalist as fundamentalist is often used for people who are definitely not on the religion as it was for 1400 years.
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