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**ZZChristopher** · 08-15-2012, 12:56 AM

Yes I agree with what you say.

Just that for some reason when a Muslim makes it to the top it feels good whether it be academics, science or sports.

And just imagine sportsman post-event interviews thanking Allah and saying their victory was due to him e.t.c. I think that can be another way of da'wah since most westerners are sport fanatics and olympics has a big global audience like how prince naseem persistently re-iterated Allah's greatness in the boxing scene.

Sports as an occupation is probably valid - in that way its not a hobby displacing your worship/religious commitments. I do agree that if it is above one's usual occupation, it is likely to waste considerable time. I know a guy who lifts weights and wastes 2 hrs after work and has been doing for the last 2 years. He likes to keep fit and look good. I just see him as wasting considerable precious time.

I think why Muslims performed very poorly is because there is no incentive of material reward and likely most muslim countries dont have sportsmen who are occupationally commited to their sport. I highly doubt we performed badly because we suck at sports.

Its economics and lack of support that leads to a situation where so few Muslims get medals.

In west Africa we have the greatest potential resource of sprinters in the world and east Africa the greatest potential resource of longer distance runners,

but it is wasted because the potential Muslim world number 1 sprinter is a fisherman or a butcher whose natural ability has wasted before he could have got to his peak if spotted and trained

All the other sports tend to be more related to backing and training a large enough pool to produce the gems.

People don't do well at the olympics without a lot of backing, training and support that is generally starting a decade or more before they compete

this is why even in a country like UK where there are many athletics tracks and sports clubs etc - half of the GB medals went to people who had been at private school.

If Muslims want the Ummah to do well at the olympics (which is of doubtful benefit) they need to pray and work to promote a United Amirate of the Muslin countries where Muslim resources and economics could be pooled to turn darul Islam into something more like an Islamic China.

But rather than waste our time on children's games would it not be better to focus on eradicating poverty and rather than promoting a satanic me-first attitude we could teach people humility and charity.

Better to turn a child into a Hafiz or a doctor than an athlete.

When Mo Farah won his gold he went straight into sujud and as soon as he did that the camera cut off him.

The mobot the kuffar were happy to show,

but sujud they did their best to hide.

08-15-2012, 12:56 AM	#17
ZZChristopher Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 337 Senior Member	Yes I agree with what you say. Just that for some reason when a Muslim makes it to the top it feels good whether it be academics, science or sports. And just imagine sportsman post-event interviews thanking Allah and saying their victory was due to him e.t.c. I think that can be another way of da'wah since most westerners are sport fanatics and olympics has a big global audience like how prince naseem persistently re-iterated Allah's greatness in the boxing scene. Sports as an occupation is probably valid - in that way its not a hobby displacing your worship/religious commitments. I do agree that if it is above one's usual occupation, it is likely to waste considerable time. I know a guy who lifts weights and wastes 2 hrs after work and has been doing for the last 2 years. He likes to keep fit and look good. I just see him as wasting considerable precious time. I think why Muslims performed very poorly is because there is no incentive of material reward and likely most muslim countries dont have sportsmen who are occupationally commited to their sport. I highly doubt we performed badly because we suck at sports. Its economics and lack of support that leads to a situation where so few Muslims get medals. In west Africa we have the greatest potential resource of sprinters in the world and east Africa the greatest potential resource of longer distance runners, but it is wasted because the potential Muslim world number 1 sprinter is a fisherman or a butcher whose natural ability has wasted before he could have got to his peak if spotted and trained All the other sports tend to be more related to backing and training a large enough pool to produce the gems. People don't do well at the olympics without a lot of backing, training and support that is generally starting a decade or more before they compete this is why even in a country like UK where there are many athletics tracks and sports clubs etc - half of the GB medals went to people who had been at private school. If Muslims want the Ummah to do well at the olympics (which is of doubtful benefit) they need to pray and work to promote a United Amirate of the Muslin countries where Muslim resources and economics could be pooled to turn darul Islam into something more like an Islamic China. But rather than waste our time on children's games would it not be better to focus on eradicating poverty and rather than promoting a satanic me-first attitude we could teach people humility and charity. Better to turn a child into a Hafiz or a doctor than an athlete. When Mo Farah won his gold he went straight into sujud and as soon as he did that the camera cut off him. The mobot the kuffar were happy to show, but sujud they did their best to hide.
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