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**uphokyhuP** · 08-12-2012, 08:26 AM

already posted that here unfortunately mods removed it, but i see theyre kind to u. Of course this news must have shattered takfiris who had already begun to make excuses for them and were 'questioning' imran's eeman. Remember tht post?

i didnt see your post. nobody is questioning anything. the thing to be ascertained is what is the ruling on those who rule by western democracy. khan calls himself a liberal. he should know the connotations attached with the word. there is noq doubt or anything but a simple matter of fiqh. if you want to discuss it bring a ruling about liberals and those who rule by democracy and show their beliefs are valid in islam. if you cannot then you do not have a case as fiqh isn't speculation of laymen.

a good read on the matter would be shamsheer e beniyam and the two books i linked in my first post on this thread. it is my request please read them. and dont throw the word takfiri around. mufti abu hashaam is a mufti from jamia ul islamiah binnori town which is a very respectbale institution. TTP have ulema directly from deoband among them. and also afghan taliban support their fight. i have this on video. so when you call them takfiri you slander many many ulema and senior people and mujahideen from around the Muslim world (including the late mufti shamzai. shaheed in sha Allah)

08-12-2012, 08:26 AM	#25
uphokyhuP Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 399 Senior Member	already posted that here unfortunately mods removed it, but i see theyre kind to u. Of course this news must have shattered takfiris who had already begun to make excuses for them and were 'questioning' imran's eeman. Remember tht post? i didnt see your post. nobody is questioning anything. the thing to be ascertained is what is the ruling on those who rule by western democracy. khan calls himself a liberal. he should know the connotations attached with the word. there is noq doubt or anything but a simple matter of fiqh. if you want to discuss it bring a ruling about liberals and those who rule by democracy and show their beliefs are valid in islam. if you cannot then you do not have a case as fiqh isn't speculation of laymen. a good read on the matter would be shamsheer e beniyam and the two books i linked in my first post on this thread. it is my request please read them. and dont throw the word takfiri around. mufti abu hashaam is a mufti from jamia ul islamiah binnori town which is a very respectbale institution. TTP have ulema directly from deoband among them. and also afghan taliban support their fight. i have this on video. so when you call them takfiri you slander many many ulema and senior people and mujahideen from around the Muslim world (including the late mufti shamzai. shaheed in sha Allah)
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